Dave J Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 On 13/06/2019 at 00:28, TRO said: but surely, every formation morphs, from one thing to another, during a game. Do you mean from boring to very boring ? Sorry TRO but you did set this one up 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MaVilla Posted June 27, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 27, 2019 On 10/10/2018 at 22:07, Godders said: Welcome Dean! I look forward to having my scepticism thrown back in my face On 10/10/2018 at 22:10, mikeyp102 said: Let’s hope he can cope with the expectations. Personally think the job will be too big for him. Just hope terry can keep players in line for him Onviously has my full support though. On 10/10/2018 at 22:14, foreveryoung said: Pleeeeese prove me wrong. I just can't see this working. But who am I? On 10/10/2018 at 22:14, Heretic said: Must confess to being underwhelmed, given the names previously linked. Perhaps the owners tried to bring in bigger names and couldn't attract them? Don't mean to rain on parades, but I would prefer someone with a bigger profile. This is a big club with expectations that are commensurately difficult to manage. I think this job is too big for him. But I very much hope I'm wrong. On 10/10/2018 at 22:45, briny_ear said: Best of luck, Dean. Given I think you’re not up to the job, maybe you will need a lot of it. On 10/10/2018 at 22:48, dubbs said: I really want to be happy about this..... On 11/10/2018 at 00:18, fifamad said: Underwhelming. On 11/10/2018 at 01:04, bannedfromHandV said: Don't know what to think, as ever the proof will be in the pudding. Win games get us promoted = legend Anything else = 'total failure' On 11/10/2018 at 01:20, 7392craig said: As I posted earlier, I’m not sure he’s capable of building anything great. I believe we’ve bought a piece of a well oiled machine. I still hold hope, and I believe the football will look better purely because it’s not Bruceball. But I certainly think we’ve got a dud. On 11/10/2018 at 08:54, KHV said: Meh pssst : We got promoted! 7 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 I was thinking he should become our manager ever since his days at Walsall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 I'd say my assessment you've quoted there was pretty accurate. He won games, he got promotion, he's a legend. What's wrong with that?! 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam2003 Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 On 19/06/2019 at 05:14, Villan_of_oz said: I agree with your point, but I feel it's a bit unfair in Birkir. He was a decent squad player imo often played out of position, always put in a shift and scored a few handy goals for us. Have we released him or is he still in the squad...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 7 minutes ago, Adam2003 said: Have we released him or is he still in the squad...? Currently in the retained squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubbs Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, MaVilla said: pssst : We got promoted! Must have took ages to put all that together. However well done Dean, yes we got promoted. Edited June 27, 2019 by dubbs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 (edited) At least with DS, NSWE, Purslow etc, although im sure they arent perfect, they have implemented a modern structure at the club, and committed to playing modern football, with modern players and ensuring the club can operate properly. So in closing, im happy we didnt get promoted under Bruce, not because i hold any animosity for Bruce, he seemed a decent bloke who tried his best, but him and Xia falling down, in hindsight, was some of the best things to happen to this club in prob 10-15 years. Not because it was all Bruce's fault, it wasnt, but what happened finally allowed the club to start rectifying what had been wrong with the club for literally a decade. The Bruce/Xia era for me, was was like the tail end of a long, insidious illness, they werent the cause or the bulk of it, but they were part of the overall sickness our club had, and now (hopefully), we are in recovery. Edited June 29, 2019 by blandy Removed quoted off topic post and response to that, sorry 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TrentVilla Posted July 13, 2019 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted July 13, 2019 Right now there are far more pressing things to focus on like the transfer window, players contracts and pre-season but I really would like Smith to get a new deal asap. The job he has done has been remarkable, not faultless of course but who is, yet he has turned this club around. Now with the help of the owners he has a chance to rebuild as a Premier League side and move forward for the first time in about 12 years. I think what he has done deserves a new contract and I’d like to see him have that security and for Villa to commit to him. We need stability, we need to be united and we need to be fully behind Smith even when we have inevitable runs of poor results this season. I hope he gets the contract he deserves. 17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thabucks Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 I’m sure he got a nice bonus and hefty rise upon promotion .... I’d personally wait to see how he settles in the Prem before extending his deal... I reckon around Xmas would be good a good time if team are performing well.. I have little doubt he will continue his success with us but I think it would be prudent not lumbering the club with a long term contract if worse case scenario he doesn’t do well... Tin hat on .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted July 13, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted July 13, 2019 He's done well, but I think we need to think about survival first and foremost and if we're quick we might be able to tempt Steve Bruce away from Newcastle. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 1 hour ago, TrentVilla said: Right now there are far more pressing things to focus on like the transfer window, players contracts and pre-season but I really would like Smith to get a new deal asap. The job he has done has been remarkable, not faultless of course but who is, yet he has turned this club around. Now with the help of the owners he has a chance to rebuild as a Premier League side and move forward for the first time in about 12 years. I think what he has done deserves a new contract and I’d like to see him have that security and for Villa to commit to him. We need stability, we need to be united and we need to be fully behind Smith even when we have inevitable runs of poor results this season. I hope he gets the contract he deserves. Agreed. Smith is someone that build for long term so I I'd want him here even if we came straight back down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 (edited) He met his objective a year ahead of schedule so he definitely needs to be rewarded for it. It’s now time for the second more difficult task of us keeping us up and establishing us in the top flight. Edited July 13, 2019 by Vive_La_Villa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New_Hope Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 Can't see DS leaving us for any other club willingly. Only England could possibly turn his head. New contract yes but IMO, he'd do the job for nothing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: He met his adjective a year ahead of schedule so he definitely needs to be rewarded for it. It’s now time for the second more difficult task of is keeping us up and establishing us in the top flight. Was it one of these ? It usually is......but this time one of the good ones !! Edited July 13, 2019 by terrytini 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Zen Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 11 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: He met his adjective Promoted? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 1 minute ago, terrytini said: Was it one of these ? It usually is......but this time one of the good ones !! My typing and spelling is so bad autocorrect creates a new word! Still some fitting adjectives to describe the season! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DCJonah Posted July 13, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 13, 2019 I just thank god we didn't actually go up with Bruce and Xia. What an absolute blessing in the end that turned out to be. 20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982am Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 Everyone wanted Bruce out at the end and to be replaced by a younger more proactive coach(we got that). One who could improve players preparing us for the future whilst playing attractive attacking football(we got that). I had my doubts about him but not as many as some and more than others when he first arrived. I also doubted him slightly when we hit our rocky patch, when Jack was out as it was evident at the time we lacked spark and he seemed to run out of ideas. However what has transpired since has led me to believe he is the right manager for us. With a bit of luck the team strengthened at the right time allowing us to start playing the way we were before injuries interrupted the season. Smith and the backroom staff addressed the issues somewhat at the back and the free flowing sometimes cavalier football returned. Only this time there was a different feel about it all. Like a coming together of everyone involved in the club. The rest as they say is history. What has been most evident for me though since he arrived is the fact that he is probably the first manager since Brian Little and maybe MON to a degree, that actually gets the club and our footballing identity. We have had so many pretenders, idiots and wasters come through the doors over the last decade and more, we need to be in safe hands for this next stage. I think he provides that and even if, as I anticipate, we have a rocky existence at times for the next couple of years while we transition, I wouldn't trust many managers other than Smith to put the correct building blocks in place for the club to progress over the next 10 years or more. I could drone on all day and break down why?! The fact of the matter is that, he's one of us and he gets what we need to do and where we need to go. Where we all as Villan's want to be. He's a well respected elite coach(fact) that has spent many years learning his trade and increasing his knowledge for this moment, at this time and with his and our club. He deserves a contract to reflect not only this but our faith in him. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DaveAV1 Posted July 13, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 13, 2019 46 minutes ago, avfc1982am said: Everyone wanted Bruce out at the end and to be replaced by a younger more proactive coach(we got that). One who could improve players preparing us for the future whilst playing attractive attacking football(we got that). I had my doubts about him but not as many as some and more than others when he first arrived. I also doubted him slightly when we hit our rocky patch, when Jack was out as it was evident at the time we lacked spark and he seemed to run out of ideas. However what has transpired since has led me to believe he is the right manager for us. With a bit of luck the team strengthened at the right time allowing us to start playing the way we were before injuries interrupted the season. Smith and the backroom staff addressed the issues somewhat at the back and the free flowing sometimes cavalier football returned. Only this time there was a different feel about it all. Like a coming together of everyone involved in the club. The rest as they say is history. What has been most evident for me though since he arrived is the fact that he is probably the first manager since Brian Little and maybe MON to a degree, that actually gets the club and our footballing identity. We have had so many pretenders, idiots and wasters come through the doors over the last decade and more, we need to be in safe hands for this next stage. I think he provides that and even if, as I anticipate, we have a rocky existence at times for the next couple of years while we transition, I wouldn't trust many managers other than Smith to put the correct building blocks in place for the club to progress over the next 10 years or more. I could drone on all day and break down why?! The fact of the matter is that, he's one of us and he gets what we need to do and where we need to go. Where we all as Villan's want to be. He's a well respected elite coach(fact) that has spent many years learning his trade and increasing his knowledge for this moment, at this time and with his and our club. He deserves a contract to reflect not only this but our faith in him. Very good post which I agree with except for the part about MON. I really don’t think MON ever understood Aston Villa, in fact I think his only interest was and still is only ever himself. The timing of his departure was I believe to cause the maximum damage to Randy Lerner, he didn’t for a moment consider the damage it would do to us because he only ever cared about MON. A selfish and self obsessed little man who has been found out time and time again. He thought he was the next Brian Clough, but the reality was he wasn’t fit to lace Cloughie’s drinks. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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