QldVilla Posted February 28, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted February 28, 2021 3 hours ago, Vive_La_Villa said: I think we could have kept the ball a bit better or at least been a bit more decisive and careful on the break to finish them off. Don’t get me wrong though I’m not complaining. We got the job done. I don't disagree, but think the pitch played a part in that as well. I would have liked to see Sanson starting as Luiz generally plays the conductor role and slowing down play and moving the ball around, we lacked that in the midfield and Sanson can play that role, just a little further up the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 7 hours ago, Vive_La_Villa said: This is why people get wound up by the stick he gets for his game management and tactics: The constant selection of Barkley was annoying but we just have to trust this man knows what he is doing. This all day. If your only knowledge of villa was this thread since the Burnley game, you'd be convinced we were in a relegation battle and having a poor season. And you know the minute we next lose the same crowd will do it all over again. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan-scott Posted February 28, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted February 28, 2021 This man, along with NSWE have made me fall head over heels for my club again. There have been times in recent years where I’ve thought ‘What’s the point?’ ‘Why bother?’, but now I’m believing again, and the journey Dean has brought us on is nothing short of miraculous. It is so refreshing having someone in charge who is adaptable, willing to learn and improve, listen, and sees the game the way many fans do. There is very, very little to disagree with Deano on. The spirit and camaraderie is there for all to see in the squad. The clean sheets, and solidity is down to hard work and guile. I’m excited, very excited, for what the future holds for AVFC, thank you Dean and NSWE. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheltenham_villa Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 So happy to see some changes yesterday to better fit an opponent. Bringing in Nakamba and Ramsey to add some steel and energy and I'd like to see a team to suit sheffield united. Assuming we will have more of the ball, I'd rotate Ramsey or Nakamba and bring Sanson or Dougie back in to play a bit further forwards. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Brumstopdogs Posted February 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 28, 2021 (edited) One tactical change that Smith made that was noticable was not playing out from the back and instead hitting it forwards earlier. Yes, it wasn't pretty but it stopped what Leeds wanted to do and that was press us high up the pitch. In the second half apart from the Raphinha header (he looks a quality player to be fair) we contained Leeds by limiting the space they could play in. Also sensisble to employ those tactics on that woeful pitch. Edited February 28, 2021 by Brumstopdogs 10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted February 28, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted February 28, 2021 10 hours ago, Vive_La_Villa said: This is why people get wound up by the stick he gets for his game management and tactics: The constant selection of Barkley was annoying but we just have to trust this man knows what he is doing. whist i do agree, i do think barkley probably played 1 or 2 games too many. deano was trying to play him into form/fitness which i don't necessarily agree with and i think it cost us points in the process. when a big percentage of the fanbase thinks something the manager is doing is wrong, there's a good chance that they're right. even though smith knows more about football than each of those individuals i'm pleased that he changed it yesterday. it was a bold move and it came off. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 4 minutes ago, tomav84 said: when a big percentage of the fanbase thinks something the manager is doing is wrong, there's a good chance that they're right. even though smith knows more about football than each of those individuals When a large amount of the fanbase thought Smith should be let go exactly a year ago and now we are 8th, one point off 6th, I’ll stick with Smith thanks... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhan_Zhuang Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 (edited) 49 minutes ago, Brumstopdogs said: One tactical change that Smith made that was noticable was not playing out from the back and instead hitting it forwards earlier. Yes, it wasn't pretty but it stopped what Leeds wanted to do and that was press us high up the pitch. In the second half apart from the Raphinha header (he looks a quality player to be fair) we contained Leeds by limiting the space they could play in. Also sensisble to employ those tactics on that woeful pitch. Yes, I noticed that too. It's horses for courses. Watkins did a great job holding up the ball. Edited February 28, 2021 by Zhan_Zhuang 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 11 minutes ago, tomav84 said: whist i do agree, i do think barkley probably played 1 or 2 games too many. deano was trying to play him into form/fitness which i don't necessarily agree with and i think it cost us points in the process. when a big percentage of the fanbase thinks something the manager is doing is wrong, there's a good chance that they're right. even though smith knows more about football than each of those individuals i'm pleased that he changed it yesterday. it was a bold move and it came off. What? No chance I can agree with this. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted February 28, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted February 28, 2021 10 minutes ago, DCJonah said: What? No chance I can agree with this. were you the same when bruce was playing players out of position? or letting a CB go out on loan when we had no cover? all the fanbase knew it was a mistake, but were you saying 'bruce knows what he's doing' ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted February 28, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted February 28, 2021 (edited) 17 minutes ago, nick76 said: When a large amount of the fanbase thought Smith should be let go exactly a year ago and now we are 8th, one point off 6th, I’ll stick with Smith thanks... it wasn't a large amount, compared to the percentage that wanted barkley dropped. i don't think a poll was ever done on smith in/out but it wouldn't be that big compared to the volume of people that wanted barkley dropped and i'm not saying not stick with smith...i love where he's taken us. i love where i believe he will take us in the future. but not dropping barkley earlier annoyed me, and i think it cost us points. Edited February 28, 2021 by tomav84 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 1 minute ago, tomav84 said: were you the same when bruce was playing players out of position? or letting a CB go out on loan when we had no cover? all the fanbase knew it was a mistake, but were you saying 'bruce knows what he's doing' ? I'm not saying the fanbase can never be right, but when we're having having the best season in over a decade, I can't agree that the fans know best. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted February 28, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted February 28, 2021 Just now, DCJonah said: I'm not saying the fanbase can never be right, but when we're having having the best season in over a decade, I can't agree that the fans know best. can it not be both? just becuase we are having an amazing season, does that mean that every decision made by the coaching team is correct? can we not be **** buzzing at where we are but still feel just a tad frustrated that we couldn't be higher? look, this is coming across like i'm anti smith or something, i'm really not. i'm just annoyed at the dropped points where i honestly believe if we lined up with the midfield we had out yesterday, as many fans were calling for 2/3 games ago, we would have turned some of those losses/draws into wins 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 11 hours ago, Zatman said: of the 12 wins, we have only conceded in one of the games we also have dropped the lowest amount of points from a winning position in the league all season that farcical Burnley game Deano is probably a couple of subs away from Villa legendary status Fixed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 1 hour ago, tomav84 said: can it not be both? just becuase we are having an amazing season, does that mean that every decision made by the coaching team is correct? can we not be **** buzzing at where we are but still feel just a tad frustrated that we couldn't be higher? look, this is coming across like i'm anti smith or something, i'm really not. i'm just annoyed at the dropped points where i honestly believe if we lined up with the midfield we had out yesterday, as many fans were calling for 2/3 games ago, we would have turned some of those losses/draws into wins I just find it odd that we can be doing this well because of the decisions our coaching staff are making and still some people think they're holding us back. Maybe making those changes earlier leads to beating Brighton and Leicester. Maybe it leads to us losing to Southampton and Arsenal. The frustrating thing is that when people talk about the changes they want, they never, ever contemplate that maybe they don't work or actually maybe they'd have cost us points in the past. It's always, the VT changes would have meant more points. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulberto21 Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 6 minutes ago, DCJonah said: I just find it odd that we can be doing this well because of the decisions our coaching staff are making and still some people think they're holding us back. Maybe making those changes earlier leads to beating Brighton and Leicester. Maybe it leads to us losing to Southampton and Arsenal. The frustrating thing is that when people talk about the changes they want, they never, ever contemplate that maybe they don't work or actually maybe they'd have cost us points in the past. It's always, the VT changes would have meant more points. It's pretty obvious that the poster is talking about the selection of Barkley. @OutByEaster? Did an excellent breakdown of the Maddison goal where Barkley was largely culpable. Sanson, Nakamba or Ramsey instead of Barkley we might have had a better chance of stopping that goal. There's no conspiracy theory against Dean Smith. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 1 hour ago, tomav84 said: can it not be both? just becuase we are having an amazing season, does that mean that every decision made by the coaching team is correct? can we not be **** buzzing at where we are but still feel just a tad frustrated that we couldn't be higher? look, this is coming across like i'm anti smith or something, i'm really not. i'm just annoyed at the dropped points where i honestly believe if we lined up with the midfield we had out yesterday, as many fans were calling for 2/3 games ago, we would have turned some of those losses/draws into wins That’s the problem though, fans think if Smith had done something different or what they would’ve thought then we would’ve got more points/higher in the league. They assume their changes would’ve yielded a positive outcome and never take into consideration a negative outcome. Easy to say that when we lose, that we couldn’t have done any worse but they assume their change would yield positive result. Then re subs, starting line-ups, formations if only Smith had done what a fan said it would’ve yielded a positive outcome yet in many cases a negative outcome is also likely. Dean has us in 8th, one point off 6th. Yes some tweaks could’ve made us higher but also lower but fans calling for something doesn’t mean it would’ve yielded a positive outcome, it may have brought a negative outcome. Always good to debate though but assuming we lost points because of it is still only a guess 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 Just now, Sulberto21 said: It's pretty obvious that the poster is talking about the selection of Barkley. @OutByEaster? Did an excellent breakdown of the Maddison goal where Barkley was largely culpable. Sanson, Nakamba or Ramsey instead of Barkley we might have had a better chance of stopping that goal. There's no conspiracy theory against Dean Smith. Agreed. And without Barkley we might not beat Southampton and Arsenal. It can't just be everything good that happens stays the same and my specific change gets us more points. That's a crazy way to think of things. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Sulberto21 said: It's pretty obvious that the poster is talking about the selection of Barkley. @OutByEaster? Did an excellent breakdown of the Maddison goal where Barkley was largely culpable. Sanson, Nakamba or Ramsey instead of Barkley we might have had a better chance of stopping that goal. There's no conspiracy theory against Dean Smith. Always good to look for constant improvement I agree. Sometimes feels on here to look for fault. Fine line between the two but feels we tend more into the negative inference than the constructive inference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulberto21 Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 One thing I've noticed that is a worrying trend about Dean Smith. For opposition managers that is. It's okay @DCJonah you can relax... . When he works out how to beat you it's going to be hard to beat him again. This is going back to his Walsall days. Tactically he's improving. Fast. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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