markavfc40 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 I think what today showed is what I guess Dean already knows and that is that if we can get our first 11 on the pitch, all on form, then we are a match for anyone but when we get a number of players with fatigue, injuries or loss of form then we don't have the quality in the squad to make changes. Too many players today were off the pace and that was almost certainly due to a number of them having played 2 or 3 international games in the last 9 days. We were then unfortunate to lose one of those that hadn't to injury after 3 minutes. Trouble is though Dean really couldn't rest even two or three players. You take out Mings who do you bring in? you take out Luiz and/or McGinn you bring in Connor and/or Nakamba and have a pretty big drop off in quality. Take out Jack and well there is no one getting close to replacing him. There was no striker on the beach today as I assume Davis was injured. It shouldn't be the case though that one player being injured means we have zero striker options on bench but that is the price you pay for going into a season with only two fit strikers. Fair play to Dean and others at the club as they have built a very decent first 11. Beyond that though there is still much work to do as today showed. We are heading in the right direction though and have come a long way in a short space of time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 I don’t think there’s much Dean did wrong today - we were making silly individual mistakes all over the shop. The one thing I would’ve liked to have seen, though, were some bodies in the box at the end. We had everyone showing for the ball outside the box and absolutely zero penetration (Kenneth). It was way too easy for Brighton when it shouldn’t have been. Is Davis injured? Could we not have chucked Mings up there for a bit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
commander Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 43 minutes ago, Sulberto21 said: With the exception of Leeds and 15 minutes against Southampton we have been better than everyone we have played today included. How effing hell did march score that. I'm surprised Welbeck didn't pull a hamstring during his run. yet we've lost 3 out of 4 and 3 in a row at home. We're in a good position, but there should be some questions about this and the last 2 home losses. It's not good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenjiOgiwara Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 Desperately need better quality on the bench, but we also need Deano to show faith to his squad. Anyone and everyone knew our players had a huge fitness issue after International matches. Not starting Hourihane was absolute criminal management. Both Luiz and McGinn lost us that match today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
commander Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 45 minutes ago, useless said: If he keeps us up and wins us the FA Cup then it will be a good season. that would be an absolutely incredible season. But... we won't win the FA Cup playing so pathetically at home as we have been. Stoke, Brighton, Leeds & Southampton have all come here and won (most quite convincingly). It's not good enough and we should expect more. They could have scored 4 or 5 today, the defending was once again attrocious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulberto21 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 7 minutes ago, commander said: yet we've lost 3 out of 4 and 3 in a row at home. We're in a good position, but there should be some questions about this and the last 2 home losses. It's not good enough. Southampton scored 4 worldies and today Mings and Konsa went wallies for the first goal. The question that needs to be asked is why are we missing game winning chances. We need to get more ruthless. At both ends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillanousOne Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 Dean needs to know when to drop players, a fit and rested Nakamba would surely have been better than a knackered McGinn 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 I think he could have made changes earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 I don't get why it's necesarry to bomb everyone forward against Brighton. We have better forward players than them and they will normally win you the game. To me it was just unnecesarry risk football when there is no need to. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 Luiz and Mcginn were jaded but i think even not full fit they are better than the alternatives. Conner and Nakamba are just not got enough and had they both played I’ve not doubt we would have still struggled in the middle. Thats the problem we have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwi1890 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 1 minute ago, villalad21 said: I don't get why it's necesarry to bomb everyone forward against Brighton. We have better forward players than them and they will normally win you the game. To me it was just unnecesarry risk football when there is no need to. True, it was obvious we had more quality than them we came to the match wanting to thump them but it backfired a bit if the missed opportunities and penalty would have gone our way we would be having a different conversation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 Starting to worry a little for Smith again. Although I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt most of the team were knackered from the internationals. We seem very one dimensional at times. With Barkley taken off early on, we then seemed to have no idea what we were supposed to be doing, so just all went high line hoping to score more then them, didn't work though. Alot of the time, we just look much to easy to play against. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 will be interesting to see how the season develops. I think its clear how to beat us (or at least make life very hard for us) and some teams seem to have figured it out already. (or smaller teams that arent programmed to attack and expect to roll us over) If teams come on to us we are deadly on the counter, Arsenal, Leicester & Liverpool saw that, where if teams sit back a bit, press and harry, get in our faces, we arent so good at breaking them down, and in that scenario we are prone to being hit on the break ourselves. when we are on the front foot we seemed to get opened up easier, its almost like McGinn and Luiz dont have the discipline to cover at times?, where we look deadly as counter punchers. should be an interesting season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villarocker Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, foreveryoung said: Starting to worry a little for Smith again. Although I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt most of the team were knackered from the internationals. We seem very one dimensional at times. With Barkley taken off early on, we then seemed to have no idea what we were supposed to be doing, so just all went high line hoping to score more then them, didn't work though. Alot of the time, we just look much to easy to play against. I wonder if the Brighton players think that Villa were easy to play against today... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AV82 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 (edited) I wish Smith would have said f**k it, rested Douglas for Nakamba, McGinn for Hourihane and Grealish for Traore just so we could actually see it all in action. .. Oh wait we did that against Bristol City back in September and we lost 3-0. Edited November 21, 2020 by AV82 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 We were really good first half. We're starting to approach that level we were at in the Championship under Deano. There was a period then where we struggled to close out games as well, but then it all clicked together gloriously. We're so good to watch now. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 (edited) Wow, the extremes of fans. After Arsenal he was a hero, now fans are worried about him. I understand criticism of him when it’s deserved but today the one thing we were guilty of was not taking our chances. He can’t control that. Im not buying he should have played Nakamba and Hourihane. They are just not good enough and any fan that isn’t always trying to find something to moan about would admit that too. Edited November 21, 2020 by Vive_La_Villa 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedClaretAndBlue Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 On today... Big overreactions from parts of the fanbase again. We were instantly disrupted with Barkley going off. Traore was fine. Jack had a very rare off day, McGinn and Mings very sloppy. Yet we still dominated the stats and chances and were robbed of a deserved point. Just one of those days. Maybe Conor should have been the one to replace Barkley but Traore is another who needs a chance, signed for big money and did well I thought. We have exciting football games week in week out. No one can dispute that. What an entertaining season we’ve had so far. We arent going to win them all. Far cry from the last 10 years of dross under absolute sausages as managers. Dean Smith’s Claret & Blue Army is the one we can all get behind 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerCollins29 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 Not deans fault. We created enough chances to win comfortably and conceded two goals, one sloppy defending and one worldie. Not sure how thats smiths fault Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rightdm00 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 13 minutes ago, AV82 said: I wish Smith would have said f**k it, rested Douglas for Nakamba, McGinn for Hourihane and Grealish for Traore just so we could actually see it all in action. .. Oh wait we did that against Bristol City back in September and we lost 3-0. Imagine the uproar if Dean had rested just 2 of them and then lost by the same scoreline. Only the elite teams can dominate all phases of play. We generated more than enough chances they just fell to the wrong guys (Trez like 5 times). As long as we keep generating quality chances we will be in every game. Until those chances start drying up I'm not worried. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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