villalad21 5,683 Posted July 16 Report Share Posted July 16 (edited) Players looked terrified after we scored. Crawled back into their usual shell. The goal against was inevitable how the last 15 minutes turned out. Smith just stood there watching. His in game management is truly atrocious and the team mirror him. Edited July 16 by villalad21 Link to post Share on other sites
Rolta 674 Posted July 16 Report Share Posted July 16 Just now, VillaChris said: Mad to think we still had 3 subs left at 1-0 up. I'd love to know what goes through his head at times at critical moments in the second half. We've seen countless times at VP when away teams are winning 1-0 and their keepers are taking half an hour to take a goal kick and they're making a sub every minute to slow the game down. As soon as Calvert Lewin missed Nakamba and Gulibert should've been on surely? 60 seconds later it was 1-1 and we've nearly run out of games now. He'll never be an established prem manager for us or anywhere else until he learns the art of closing a tight game out with substitutions and time managing/wasting. You are so right. Why did we not kill that game with subs? Or just bring Nakamba on to help defend. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Demitri_C 11,847 Posted July 16 Author Report Share Posted July 16 He has to take criticism considering so many goals in last 15 minutes. Also why do we stop playing when we score? Its incredible how many times this has happened this year. He made us wimps 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Keyblade 10,646 Posted July 16 Report Share Posted July 16 5 minutes ago, AshVilla said: Disgusting considering we've spent over 120 mill. Was that on 2 players or 12? Link to post Share on other sites
Dave-R 2,130 Posted July 16 Report Share Posted July 16 2 minutes ago, VillaChris said: Mad to think we still had 3 subs left at 1-0 up. I'd love to know what goes through his head at times at critical moments in the second half. We've seen countless times at VP when away teams are winning 1-0 and their keepers are taking half an hour to take a goal kick and they're making a sub every minute to slow the game down. As soon as Calvert Lewin missed Nakamba and Gulibert should've been on surely? 60 seconds later it was 1-1 and we've nearly run out of games now. He'll never be an established prem manager for us or anywhere else until he learns the art of closing a tight game out with substitutions and time managing/wasting. That is a good point we could of used subs to kill the time in injury time lol. Link to post Share on other sites
Keyblade 10,646 Posted July 16 Report Share Posted July 16 Just now, Demitri_C said: He has to take criticism considering so many goals in last 15 minutes. Also why do we stop playing when we score? Its incredible how many times this has happened this year. He made us wimps I mean that's obviously not true, we were pushing after our goal and should have scored another but for a perplexing miss by El Ghazi. Link to post Share on other sites
hippo 3,616 Posted July 16 Report Share Posted July 16 1 minute ago, VillaChris said: Mad to think we still had 3 subs left at 1-0 up. I'd love to know what goes through his head at times at critical moments in the second half. We've seen countless times at VP when away teams are winning 1-0 and their keepers are taking half an hour to take a goal kick and they're making a sub every minute to slow the game down. As soon as Calvert Lewin missed Nakamba and Gulibert should've been on surely? 60 seconds later it was 1-1 and we've nearly run out of games now. He'll never be an established prem manager for us or anywhere else until he learns the art of closing a tight game out with substitutions and time managing/wasting. You see I couldn't think of anything worse - two error prone players. We have to look at the whole season - not just tonight. Not good enough. Link to post Share on other sites
Dave-R 2,130 Posted July 16 Report Share Posted July 16 1 minute ago, Demitri_C said: He has to take criticism considering so many goals in last 15 minutes. Also why do we stop playing when we score? Its incredible how many times this has happened this year. He made us wimps So true that, everytime our players must seem to think they can relax, dont they know they shouldn't relax till the whistle blooms for full time. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Mantis 7,976 Posted July 16 Report Share Posted July 16 1 minute ago, villalad21 said: Players looked terrified after we scored. Crawled back into their usual shell. The goal against was inevitable how the last 15 minutes turned out. Smith just stood there watching. His in game management is truly atrocious and the team mirror him. Yep. We've got a poor squad and Smith certainly isn't entirely to blame there are clearly serious issues with him, not least the way we just completely downed tools for a hefty chunk of the season. I really do fear though that the board will stick with him now. Link to post Share on other sites
VillaChris 6,588 Posted July 16 Report Share Posted July 16 Just now, hippo said: You see I couldn't think of anything worse - two error prone players. We have to look at the whole season - not just tonight. Not good enough. Oh I'm with you on Nakamba but ultimately he's a defensive midfielder so you'd think it would be fairly logical to bring one on in a game you're winning 1-0 and need to see out for five more minutes? Take off Hourihane for him. Would've moved AEM to right midfield putting Gulibert on to try to stop Everton getting crosses in. Top end manager simply don't sit on their hand and cross their fingers in games they're winning, they make subs even if it's just to kill time. So frustrating. Link to post Share on other sites
Demitri_C 11,847 Posted July 16 Author Report Share Posted July 16 1 minute ago, Dave-R said: So true that, everytime our players must seem to think they can relax, dont they know they shouldn't relax till the whistle blooms for full time. Thats the management side for me. We can say its the players but thats the manager comes in. Why not bring on a sub to rely the lressur eoff them? Waste abit of time? Its just incredible the same shit happening week after week Link to post Share on other sites
hippo 3,616 Posted July 16 Report Share Posted July 16 Just now, VillaChris said: Oh I'm with you on Nakamba but ultimately he's a defensive midfielder so you'd think it would be fairly logical to bring one on in a game you're winning 1-0 and need to see out for five more minutes? Take off Hourihane for him. Would've moved AEM to right midfield putting Gulibert on to try to stop Everton getting crosses in. Top end manager simply don't sit on their hand and cross their fingers in games they're winning, they make subs even if it's just to kill time. So frustrating. Everyone on here would do something different. Its the very fine margins at this level. Lets not forget we got away with some slack defending a few minutes earlier presenting Everton with a guilt edged chance. Link to post Share on other sites
VillaAlex 759 Posted July 16 Report Share Posted July 16 I just always feel Dean us a bit naive, always too slow with the subs and sometimes we are punished. Even today we were being overrun before the goal and there is no reaction. Link to post Share on other sites
holteend1982 972 Posted July 16 Report Share Posted July 16 Not even sure what to think of him any more. We played well but go to shit in the last 15 minutes Link to post Share on other sites
Digavilla 167 Posted July 16 Report Share Posted July 16 I was watching lots of Derby / Brentford / Fullham games recently , no way will Smith bring us up next season Link to post Share on other sites
villalad21 5,683 Posted July 16 Report Share Posted July 16 (edited) 2 minutes ago, AV82 said: Unlucky today. Nope. It's not unlucky when players turn passive and are allowing them into our half. The goal against was inevitable. We've seen the same scenario so many times this season. Nothing to do with bad luck. Edited July 16 by villalad21 Link to post Share on other sites
Demitri_C 11,847 Posted July 16 Author Report Share Posted July 16 What pisses me off is smith says we were sloppy last 8 minutes so why didnt you make more subs??? You only used two bloody subs Link to post Share on other sites
Mantis 7,976 Posted July 16 Report Share Posted July 16 Also bear in mind that even though we've played well against both Palace and Everton, you know we're always liable to go on an unacceptably long stretch where we barely even try under Smith. I simply can't accept that. Link to post Share on other sites
RobSpain 129 Posted July 16 Report Share Posted July 16 6 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: He has to take criticism considering so many goals in last 15 minutes. Also why do we stop playing when we score? Its incredible how many times this has happened this year. He made us wimps No drive in this team. We pass the ball well until we are in the final 3rd then slow to a crawl, back pass or sideways until we lose possession. I’m sick of it. No technical fouls or even putting the ball into the corner to run down the clock. It’s a complete mess every game and clearly lacking a leader on the pitch. If DS wasn’t a villa fan etc he wouldn’t still be here. Link to post Share on other sites
Recommended Posts