VillaCas Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 24 minutes ago, TreeVillan said: It would be easier to name the players I would take from them. Shelvey Gayle Maxim And possibly the Longstaffs. Oh and tbf I do actually rate Carroll. I Thought you wouldn’t answer!! Yes I’m sure they’d be falling over themselves to replace what they’ve got with Nyland, Hourihane, Trez, Hause etc etc Life is too short to continue this riveting battle of giants debate enjoy Super Saturday 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 1 hour ago, DCJonah said: What a ridiculous statement. If he comes good it will be down to a young kid getting used to the league. The idea its smiths fault wesley didn't hit the ground running is just the kind of nonsense that seems to be the norm now, from a small group who have fully turned on the guy. Traore says hi. Takes a good manager to coach potentially a great player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OxfordVillan Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 47 minutes ago, TreeVillan said: He scored 5 goals in a short season.. Joe has scored 2... All season. Stop acting like Newcastle's squad is better than ours. It ain't. Dubravka is better than Nyland or Reina, Lascelles is better than Hause or Konsa, Danny Rose is better than Targett or Taylor, Saint Maximin is better than ElGhazi or Trezeguet, Almiron is better than Samatta or Davis. Those are just off the top of my head. From the Villa squad I’d imagine only Grealish, Mings, and McGinn would improve the Newcastle starting 11. At least 5 of the Newcastle team could improve the Villa starting 11. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirSteveUK Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, OxfordVillan said: Dubravka is better than Nyland or Reina, Lascelles is better than Hause or Konsa, Danny Rose is better than Targett or Taylor, Saint Maximin is better than ElGhazi or Trezeguet, Almiron is better than Samatta or Davis. Those are just off the top of my head. From the Villa squad I’d imagine only Grealish, Mings, and McGinn would improve the Newcastle starting 11. At least 5 of the Newcastle team could improve the Villa starting 11. Almiron is a striker ?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 17 minutes ago, VillaCas said: I Thought you wouldn’t answer!! Yes I’m sure they’d be falling over themselves to replace what they’ve got with Nyland, Hourihane, Trez, Hause etc etc Life is too short to continue this riveting battle of giants debate enjoy Super Saturday To be fair chap it's a poor question. I mean who would you take from Sheffield United's team. Can't think of too much quality in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 3 hours ago, TRO said: So, does Dean think he has more chance of holding on to his job....if we go down.? if so, it puts us in a very precarious situation. you would naturally think the reward, would be for stopping up and losing his job for relegation. Interesting to see what really does happen. Where have you plucked this from? If that was the case, do you think Smith would consider naming a weaker team to relegate us and keep himself in a job? If not, why post it? It's a really strange thought. I know former managers were totally focused on themselves and never once thought of the best interests of the club, but Smith isn't a man who thinks like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 31 minutes ago, OxfordVillan said: Dubravka is better than Nyland or Reina, Lascelles is better than Hause or Konsa, Danny Rose is better than Targett or Taylor, Saint Maximin is better than ElGhazi or Trezeguet, Almiron is better than Samatta or Davis. Those are just off the top of my head. From the Villa squad I’d imagine only Grealish, Mings, and McGinn would improve the Newcastle starting 11. At least 5 of the Newcastle team could improve the Villa starting 11. They aren't better players. They look better because they are better coached. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 34 minutes ago, foreveryoung said: Traore says hi. Takes a good manager to coach potentially a great player. Total and complete bunkum this Don't even know where to start it's so wrong. Are you going to credit the next manager for not focusing on Grealish when Grealish isn't even at the club? I'm looking forward to you hamming it up. Liverpool will tank us yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeVillan Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 1 hour ago, VillaCas said: I Thought you wouldn’t answer!! Yes I’m sure they’d be falling over themselves to replace what they’ve got with Nyland, Hourihane, Trez, Hause etc etc Life is too short to continue this riveting battle of giants debate enjoy Super Saturday Ok Jack McGinn Luiz Mings Heaton Guilbert Any of our strikers over Linton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 17 minutes ago, Tomaszk said: Total and complete bunkum this Don't even know where to start it's so wrong. Are you going to credit the next manager for not focusing on Grealish when Grealish isn't even at the club? I'm looking forward to you hamming it up. Liverpool will tank us yes. Just saying Traore became a better player, Albrighton played in a Premier League team that won the title. Good coaches turn players around, every player we have signed has stayed the same if not regressed. It's been going on for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 1 hour ago, foreveryoung said: Traore says hi. Takes a good manager to coach potentially a great player. Haha Traore confirms my point even more. A young kid who took time to settle. Pullis started getting the best out of him, which earnt a big money move. Is Tony Pullis a great coach? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeVillan Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 7 minutes ago, foreveryoung said: Just saying Traore became a better player, Albrighton played in a Premier League team that won the title. Good coaches turn players around, every player we have signed has stayed the same if not regressed. It's been going on for years. Some have improved tbf. Luiz is starting to show his worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 Tony Pulls has achieved more than Smith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 1 minute ago, villalad21 said: Tony Pulls has achieved more than Smith. Wow. Its a gift for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 11 hours ago, TreeVillan said: I think we've thrown the towel in every game we've took the lead haven't we? Especially if we're up against 10 men. How does that even make sense, you know we've won 7 games right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 10 hours ago, foreveryoung said: That he believes we have been playing better after the break is all very Lambert-esk. I personally think he he fighting to keep his job and needs results, he won't be with us next season if we go down. We've been better, that's a fact. Do you not remember us before the break? Leaking goals left and right. Got thrashed 4-0 by Leicester right before the break. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheltenham_villa Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 If we get through the United and liverpool game still one point behind watford, you've got to give us a chance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeVillan Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 29 minutes ago, Keyblade said: How does that even make sense, you know we've won 7 games right? A lot of teams around us have won games to. Not sure what your point is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OxfordVillan Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 1 hour ago, SirSteveUK said: Almiron is a striker ?? Point taken. Almiron & Saint Maximin are better than ElGhazi and Trezeguet. And Jota. Andy Carroll (yes, Andy Carroll) is better than Samatta. Heck, Dwight Gayle is better than Samatta or Davis. Hayden is better than Nakamba. I think most would say Yedlin is a better RB than either Guilbert or Elmohamady. Either of Matt Ritchie or Shelvey are better than Hourihane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OxfordVillan Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 1 hour ago, villalad21 said: They aren't better players. They look better because they are better coached. Does idiocy come naturally to you, or is something you put a lot of effort into? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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