AvfcRigo82 Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 8 minutes ago, penguin said: We’d be well clear if we played as well as Norwich imo, But yet the fact is we are only 6pts clear for playing like Norwich! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 3 minutes ago, DCJonah said: So you'd be happy and behind Dean smith if we were bottom of the league playing like Norwich? If we showed a bit of a winning mentality like Norwich are now, probably yes, as there is nothing else we can do apart from agree the players are not good enough. But it's obvious from most of us on here, Smith is far from getting the best out these players. Grealish for instance, is he playing to the best of his ability, I very much doubt, an yes, he might be off, but that's no excuse for the manager to accept his performances. Why is he still captain. I tell you why, cause Smith ain't got the bottle to take the armband off him. He is no captain, even if he was, he needs to concentrate on his own football, giving him the captaincy has made no difference to our team whatsoever, why has Smith not changed this, scared of upsetting him maybe??. It might make a difference if you give it to Ming's, as you can tell he is a leader, Grealish is good at his football, but he is no leader. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 3 minutes ago, vreitti said: Sorry I don't see the logic. Wouldn't we be bottom of the league, almost certain to be relegated if we played like Norwich. If every team had the same players yes. I think they play great stuff at times: have good movement and can carry quite bit of threat but are spurn numerous chances and concede soft goals because the squad is largely championship standard and threadbare. I can see Farke getting offers in the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sam3773 Posted June 27, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 27, 2020 (edited) Here's where I'm at: Dean is a great guy and coached us during a great period in which we got promoted following a record breaking winning run. Key players in Grealish, McGinn and Mings were, and are, too good for the Championship, which certainly helped. We then went into a summer rebuild around those players. Recruitment has a lot to answer for, certainly, but Dean himself said he gets the final say in our 'transfer committee', so a certain amount of our window rests on his shoulders as well as Suso and Purslow. With some notable exceptions, I don't actually think we have a terrible squad for this league and I do think a lot of them will go on to clubs in top divisions. The problem is consistency and that's across the board. Even with the aforementioned Grealish, McGinn and Mings. They're now very hit or miss and a lot of that has to come down to coaching and morale. Another poster mentioned tactics and 'what's Dean meant to do? He's tried everything!' Well I don't particularly think it's a tactical problem. I think there's a confidence problem. I think there's a morale problem. I think there's an attitude problem. And, after the other night, I think there's a dressing room problem. Whatever happens now, I can't see Dean leading us into next season, be that in this league or the Championship. Moreover I think now, today, is the best time for him to go beit of his own accord or with a slight push. We have 6 games left and whilst I expect nothing from them and relegation to be confirmed, we MAY get a bounce from a new manager. A period of 2/3/4 games where the problems I believe to be there are washed away by a new broom. Chances are we won't, but the owners have to try something, and that seems the only option to maybe have an impact on this season. As for Dean, he's a fan of the club and got us promoted. There isn't a sour relationship with the fans, not to cabbage levels anyway, and there shouldn't be. He will be remembered for getting us promoted and having a go in the Premier League. OK, it hasn't worked out. I don't particularly think that's all his fault, but walking away might fix it temporarily, and keep him as one of our own. As for who we get in? A temp for now probably. Someone who can bring a bit of hunger back to the dressing room. Someone who can bring confidence back and someone who can boost morale. Maybe Big Sam is that man. He's done it before, albeit with more games left. Luckily as others have said, by pure blind luck the teams around us haven't moved. We still have time, with a bit of a bounce, to maybe stay in this league. Edited June 27, 2020 by Sam3773 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, penguin said: I can see Farke getting offers in the summer. As long as it's not from us then we've nothing to worry about! Edited June 27, 2020 by AvfcRigo82 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 Teams figured out stop Grealish and you stop Villa. Absolutely no creativity or identity in this team. It all relies either on a set piece or Jack producing a moment of brilliance. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stratvillan Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 5 minutes ago, foreveryoung said: If we showed a bit of a winning mentality like Norwich are now, probably yes, as there is nothing else we can do apart from agree the players are not good enough. But it's obvious from most of us on here, Smith is far from getting the best out these players. Grealish for instance, is he playing to the best of his ability, I very much doubt, an yes, he might be off, but that's no excuse for the manager to accept his performances. Why is he still captain. I tell you why, cause Smith ain't got the bottle to take the armband off him. He is no captain, even if he was, he needs to concentrate on his own football, giving him the captaincy has made no difference to our team whatsoever, why has Smith not changed this, scared of upsetting him maybe??. It might make a difference if you give it to Ming's, as you can tell he is a leader, Grealish is good at his football, but he is no leader. Theres so many opinions masquerading as facts here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thabucks Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 Dead man walking and expect him gone tonight ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mykeyb Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 Just now, thabucks said: Dead man walking and expect him gone tonight ! Farkes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 (edited) If Dean isn't fit for this level i don't see any argument in him staying when we inevitable are relegated. I thought our long term goal was establishing ourselves in the top 8. That ain't happening under a Championship level coach. Ever. Edited June 27, 2020 by villalad21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 8 minutes ago, Stratvillan said: Theres so many opinions masquerading as facts here. My thoughts from watching and going to games this season. None of it is fact, but most fans see with there own eyes something ain't working under this manager. The only fact I would like quote is the team is underperforming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulberto21 Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 Aston Villa chiefs are this evening discussing the possibility of sacking Dean Smith as manager, Football Insider can reveal. Gathering pace. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 11 minutes ago, foreveryoung said: If we showed a bit of a winning mentality like Norwich are now, probably yes, as there is nothing else we can do apart from agree the players are not good enough. But it's obvious from most of us on here, Smith is far from getting the best out these players. Grealish for instance, is he playing to the best of his ability, I very much doubt, an yes, he might be off, but that's no excuse for the manager to accept his performances. Why is he still captain. I tell you why, cause Smith ain't got the bottle to take the armband off him. He is no captain, even if he was, he needs to concentrate on his own football, giving him the captaincy has made no difference to our team whatsoever, why has Smith not changed this, scared of upsetting him maybe??. It might make a difference if you give it to Ming's, as you can tell he is a leader, Grealish is good at his football, but he is no leader. I don't know where to go with this. If you want him to strip the captaincy off Grealish I think that would be terrible management at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 Just now, foreveryoung said: My thoughts from watching and going to games this season. None of it is fact, but most fans see with there own eyes something ain't working under this manager. The only fact I would like quote is the team is underperforming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 Replacing him with JT would be a mistake. Can’t see how that’s going to shake anything up. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted June 27, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted June 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, Sulberto21 said: Aston Villa chiefs are this evening discussing the possibility of sacking Dean Smith as manager, Football Insider can reveal. Gathering pace. well if football insider thinks so then it must be true........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 Just now, penguin said: Replacing him with JT would be a mistake. Can’t see how that’s going to shake anything up. Exactly, the disruption without the impact is a waste of effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbcuk Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 3 minutes ago, Sulberto21 said: Aston Villa chiefs are this evening discussing the possibility of sacking Dean Smith as manager, Football Insider can reveal. Gathering pace. Too little maybe too late, should have done this at Xmas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshharris12 Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 He’s gone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 4 minutes ago, Sulberto21 said: Aston Villa chiefs are this evening discussing the possibility of sacking Dean Smith as manager, Football Insider can reveal. Gathering pace. Not convinced handing the manager’s job to Terry would be a great move. Her is part of the failing coaching team that has got us into this mess. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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