New_Hope Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 As always....we know certain people will go quiet and disappear when performances and results pick up again 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sam3773 Posted February 12, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted February 12, 2019 8 hours ago, villalad21 said: I never agree with sacking someone mid season unless things are obvious and you are getting relegated and you need to change. I dont think we should have sacked Bruce until the end of the season either, it just disrupts the squad. 7 hours ago, villalad21 said: No he weren't. We were going through a bad spell similar to Hull who managed to turned it around. If you think we would get relegated with this squad you are deluded. There are far worse teams in this league. Difference is Hull gave their manager the time to turn it around and we didn't in a desperate attempt to reach top 6. And on here people are suggesting sacking DS after only 10 games next season, looks like certain people on here have learned nothing. If you are going to sack your manager do it in the summer, end of. If we've proved one thing here, it's that I have too much time on my hands. 2 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New_Hope Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 Owned! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted February 12, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted February 12, 2019 28 minutes ago, Sam3773 said: If we've proved one thing here, it's that I have too much time on my hands. 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post New_Hope Posted February 12, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted February 12, 2019 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 (edited) 38 minutes ago, Sam3773 said: If we've proved one thing here, it's that I have too much time on my hands. Heat of the moment. I'm often like that after a game, usually come to senses a few days after every game. Bruce didn't deserve the sack. 2 months in is way to early too judge a manager in a season. I'm also amazed by your passion digging in the archives to find this exact quote. Good on you. Edited February 12, 2019 by villalad21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post New_Hope Posted February 12, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted February 12, 2019 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted February 12, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted February 12, 2019 On 14/01/2019 at 10:53, villalad21 said: Difference is Benitez actualy knows how to attack as well. Bruce have no tactical nouse what so ever. With Bruce it's aimless hoofing and crossing hoping for the best. Three and a half months after Bruce’s sacking. This song is dedicated to Steve from Villalad21, he wants you to know that he’s sorry and that he misses you... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted February 12, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted February 12, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, villalad21 said: Heat of the moment. I'm often like that after a game, usually come to senses a few days after every game. Bruce didn't deserve the sack. 2 months in is way to early too judge a manager in a season. I'm also amazed by your passion digging in the archives to find this exact quote. Good on you. Hold up, haven't you already made up your mind about Smith? So 2 months into a season was way too early to judge a manager who had been here almost 2 years. However 3 months into Smiths first season is not too early to judge him? Edited February 12, 2019 by JAMAICAN-VILLAN 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pimlico_Villa Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 No one can argue that Smith is not filling us with confidence. There aren’t even any signs that he is trying to implement a particular style that we could all see was coming along and just needed refining for next season. Yes, he is going to be more effective when he signs the players he wants. Smith does need a particular type of player: young and willing to learn and work hard. The problem is, if Smith were to leave, then what other type of Manager could come in and get a tune out of Smith type players? That type of player profile would struggle massively playing in front of a full Holte. It would be far more sensible for Smith to try and get the most out of this bunch. After all, they are all established players who have done it before at other clubs. It’s this point that he should be called out for and not being able to do so makes me really nervous. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 6 hours ago, villalad21 said: What building? The majority of the signings been loans and Abraham + Axel aren't here next year. All the squad building is happening in the summer regardless if he arrived now or in the summer. All i am saying is only giving Bruce time till October is ridicilous when we decided to keep him in the summer. Squad building can be also coaching, assessing which players to keep etc.. getting 8 months to do this before the real rebuilding is better than just doing it in the summer. The decision was not ridiculous, it made sense that new owners arriving when they did would want some stability, it then became clear bruce was failing so they decided not to waste anymore time. And thank **** 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KentVillan Posted February 12, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted February 12, 2019 10 minutes ago, Pimlico_Villa said: No one can argue that Smith is not filling us with confidence. There aren’t even any signs that he is trying to implement a particular style that we could all see was coming along and just needed refining for next season. Yes, he is going to be more effective when he signs the players he wants. Smith does need a particular type of player: young and willing to learn and work hard. The problem is, if Smith were to leave, then what other type of Manager could come in and get a tune out of Smith type players? That type of player profile would struggle massively playing in front of a full Holte. It would be far more sensible for Smith to try and get the most out of this bunch. After all, they are all established players who have done it before at other clubs. It’s this point that he should be called out for and not being able to do so makes me really nervous. Disagree completely: There were loads of signs of a distinctive style, until injuries to our most technically gifted midfielder and most technically gifted defender. On what planet is "young and willing to learn and work hard" a difficult brief for a new manager? Loads of managers want these kinds of players. What makes you think he isn't trying to get the most out of this bunch? What makes you think playing Bruceball for half a season will stand us in better stead than starting to develop a more possession-based style in anticipation of next season? The "established players who have done it before at other clubs" did it several years ago, and are now in their thirties. They are not the same players who did it at other clubs. The natural process of ageing can hardly be blamed on Dean Smith. Who do you have in mind here anyway? 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 31 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Hold up, haven't you already made up your manager about Smith? So 2 months into a season was way too early to judge a manager who had been here almost 2 years. However 3 months into Smiths first season is not too early to judge him? I always said he deserves a pre season with the team, but no i haven't been impressed with him so far. My point is it's way too fast to sack a manager 2 months into a season because you have a bad spell. Look at how Hull improved, things can change so fast in this league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 Transfer window clearly shows we're hamstrung by FFP. It will take until winding down some ridiculous contracts and offloading some of the Bruce rejects for Smith to be properly judged. It's not like he hasn't given many players a chance. Bree got chance. Not good enough. Shipped off on loan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave J Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Shropshire Lad said: Three and a half months after Bruce’s sacking. This song is dedicated to Steve from Villalad21, he wants you to know that he’s sorry and that he misses you... This song is the best thing I have seen here in ages. Great band - oop's back on track sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuartc445 Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 19 hours ago, macandally said: LOL, just because four or five of you keep whinging on here, it doesnt mean the “fans are going crazy”. Try going to a game, most sensible supporters realise the position we are in and have patience, may I suggest, they are even “supporting” their team including the manager I go to every game. And I don't who where you sit if you go but it's not as rosy as you are describing on Friday for example I witnessed 6 villa fans in a heated discussion which descended into a fight. Mass booing at Wigan (those who were still there) anger at Preston and Reading. Do you go to games and if you do, do you pay attention to what is going on around you as your post suggests you either don't go or sit there oblivious to what is going on around you. Maybe I'm wrong maybe I should accept 1 win in 12 but call me old fashioned but I believe football is about winning games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 15 minutes ago, Stuartc445 said: I go to every game. And I don't who where you sit if you go but it's not as rosy as you are describing on Friday for example I witnessed 6 villa fans in a heated discussion which descended into a fight. Do you sit in the kids section? What sort of idiots get into a fight over a football game 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skruff Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 4 hours ago, villalad21 said: I always said he deserves a pre season with the team, but no i haven't been impressed with him so far. My point is it's way too fast to sack a manager 2 months into a season because you have a bad spell. Look at how Hull improved, things can change so fast in this league. So we should have a little patience now as well then? Seeing that Dean Smith is going thru a bad spell at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macandally Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 4 hours ago, Stuartc445 said: I go to every game. And I don't who where you sit if you go but it's not as rosy as you are describing on Friday for example I witnessed 6 villa fans in a heated discussion which descended into a fight. Mass booing at Wigan (those who were still there) anger at Preston and Reading. Do you go to games and if you do, do you pay attention to what is going on around you as your post suggests you either don't go or sit there oblivious to what is going on around you. Maybe I'm wrong maybe I should accept 1 win in 12 but call me old fashioned but I believe football is about winning games. Cannot believe I missed those 6 fans arguing in the 30k there. I really do need to pay more attention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
praisedmambo Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 6 hours ago, Skruff said: So we should have a little patience now as well then? Seeing that Dean Smith is going thru a bad spell at the moment. Logic doesn't work like that. You have to choose a position and selectively interpret everything possible and manipulate it to suit what you're saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts