Johnnyp Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 On a quick wiki search of Richard O'Kelly it reveals his middle name is Florence. No joke!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herman22 Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 12 minutes ago, rodders0223 said: When was the last time a manager of ours left us to go to a bigger job? MON is the only recent manager that left us and had any kind of career after. Houiller, McLeish, Lamberts, Sherwood, Garde and DiMatteo are either unemployed or managing at a much lower level. (No offence to Scotland or Montreal Impact fans) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacbuddies Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Just lumped £10 on @ 25/1 for the title! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turvontour Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 40 minutes ago, hippo said: Wouldn't say it had nothing to do with it...... Its just very nice of villa to give the job to an Englishman AGAIN (what’s that, 3 out of the last 4?) and him being a villa fan too is a nice touch. Grealish and Dean Smith applauding the Holte End sounds lovely, it means a lot to them personally I’m sure. I know we’re not competing with these clubs, but you just look at the likes of Man City, Chelsea etc, who will likely never employ an English manager again, and presumably still only have English players because they have to fulfil a quota. Barkley, Delph, Drinkwater etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godders Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 23 minutes ago, LondonLax said: There is a lot of talk about people being worried he is only a 'small cog in a bigger machine' but I think that is missing the bigger picture. He has been brought here precisely because we want a larger philosophy for the club and a head coach who will be a component in that. We want to set up that larger 'machine' here at Villa rather than a cult of personality approach built around the manager of the day. The very thing that people are saying is a potential weakness is actually one of the main advantages of his signing. I'm one of those that have some concerns around this. If the intention is to use him to build the club philosophy, why didn't we go instead for one of the strategy guys at, Brentford who actually built their philosophy? DS, from what I understand, was not the architect of the Brentford setup. Fwiw, I really hope he does bring copious knowledge that we can tap into to build a sustainable football club here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashingqwerty Posted October 11, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted October 11, 2018 49 minutes ago, KHV said: I disagree, I know some people on here think he has potential to be good at centre back, however I think he is just generally crap. Don't rate him at all in any position I think we will find that once the defence is sorted, the new keepers will settle. Just look at the first 6 months of johnstone, littered with errors, and hes english. Foreign keepers with a poor makeshift defence is a recipe for disaster, and a settled consistent back 4 will improve the keepers no end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, turvontour said: Its just very nice of villa to give the job to an Englishman AGAIN (what’s that, 3 out of the last 4?) and him being a villa fan too is a nice touch. Grealish and Dean Smith applauding the Holte End sounds lovely, it means a lot to them personally I’m sure. I know we’re not competing with these clubs, but you just look at the likes of Man City, Chelsea etc, who will likely never employ an English manager again, and presumably still only have English players because they have to fulfil a quota. Barkley, Delph, Drinkwater etc. Barkley starts for Chelsea and is doing pretty well Delph started the entire year last year for City when they had a record breaking season. If you're going to make a vapid point, at least be factual. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashingqwerty Posted October 11, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted October 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, Godders said: I'm one of those that have some concerns around this. If the intention is to use him to build the club philosophy, why didn't we go instead for one of the strategy guys at, Brentford who actually built their philosophy? DS, from what I understand, was not the architect of the Brentford setup. Fwiw, I really hope he does bring copious knowledge that we can tap into to build a sustainable football club here. I dont agree that DS is here to impose a philosophy, that pitrachs job. Ds is here to coach according to the philosophy given to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 5 minutes ago, turvontour said: Its just very nice of villa to give the job to an Englishman AGAIN (what’s that, 3 out of the last 4?) I feel the exact opposite way. But then again I'm not English 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holteend1982 Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 4 minutes ago, turvontour said: Its just very nice of villa to give the job to an Englishman AGAIN (what’s that, 3 out of the last 4?) and him being a villa fan too is a nice touch. Grealish and Dean Smith applauding the Holte End sounds lovely, it means a lot to them personally I’m sure. I know we’re not competing with these clubs, but you just look at the likes of Man City, Chelsea etc, who will likely never employ an English manager again, and presumably still only have English players because they have to fulfil a quota. Barkley, Delph, Drinkwater etc. Sterling was quality for city last year scoring plenty, Delph and drinkwater both played regularly. Barkley is breaking into Chelsea team this season, John stones, Kyle walker both great for city and now Phil foden getting slowly introduced. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 2 hours ago, Vive_La_Villa said: I wonder who he will try and sign from Brentford in January. Bentley and Woods possibly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHV Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 5 minutes ago, flashingqwerty said: I dont agree that DS is here to impose a philosophy, that pitrachs job. Ds is here to coach according to the philosophy given to him. Pitrach hasn't been relevant in football for years. The last thing of any note he did was when he tried to kick de Gea out of Madrid in 2009 and made him train on his own. Hopefully Pitrach isn't going to be responsible for solving our GK crisis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alreadyexists Posted October 11, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted October 11, 2018 5 minutes ago, turvontour said: Its just very nice of villa to give the job to an Englishman AGAIN (what’s that, 3 out of the last 4?) and him being a villa fan too is a nice touch. Grealish and Dean Smith applauding the Holte End sounds lovely, it means a lot to them personally I’m sure. I know we’re not competing with these clubs, but you just look at the likes of Man City, Chelsea etc, who will likely never employ an English manager again, and presumably still only have English players because they have to fulfil a quota. Barkley, Delph, Drinkwater etc. When in Roman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastie Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 1 minute ago, John said: Bentley and Woods possibly? Woods joined stoke in August 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alreadyexists Posted October 11, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted October 11, 2018 5 minutes ago, turvontour said: Its just very nice of villa to give the job to an Englishman AGAIN (what’s that, 3 out of the last 4?) and him being a villa fan too is a nice touch. Grealish and Dean Smith applauding the Holte End sounds lovely, it means a lot to them personally I’m sure. I know we’re not competing with these clubs, but you just look at the likes of Man City, Chelsea etc, who will likely never employ an English manager again, and presumably still only have English players because they have to fulfil a quota. Barkley, Delph, Drinkwater etc. When in Roman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 I don't care about his nationality. I care that we win games and okay good football. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 2 hours ago, wilko154 said: We paid Brentford 300k compensation. That's fair two years wages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Welcome and very good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted October 11, 2018 Moderator Share Posted October 11, 2018 2 hours ago, Stevo985 said: Yeah true. Agree with that. And the fact that he has specifically been appointed as "Head Coach" and not "Manager" points towards exactly that. I'm encouraged and excited. Indeed a small but very important detail I feel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacbuddies Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 I reckon 90 points should secure us the title so an average of a little over 2.2 points per game for the rest of the season will do it. No pressure Dean! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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