Popular Post DaveAV1 Posted February 1, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 1, 2020 With this being the lowest January window spend since 2010, I think that most if not all clubs regard it as a window for filling in gaps and minor adjustments, rather than fulfilling any long term plans. The odd bigger transfer like Bowen to West Ham are generally at greatly inflated prices where one side is clearly desperate and the other cashing in on what in the summer will be a rapidly decreasing asset. There are similarities with this transfer and our purchase of Darren Bent. The difference is that Bent was a very well proven PL player who was as close as you can get to guaranteed goals at the time. Bowen is a very promising Championship player without the same guarantees. Overall I’d say we’ve done a professional job, in a difficult window without jeopardising the short term future of the club. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenjiOgiwara Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 Wesley is really the only really bad grade I can give him so far. That signing alone is catastrophicly bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 I Really don't get this beef for Wesley, He got stuck up front as a lone striker, Didn't get the required service in a system that has since been back heeled. IMO he did the best he could do under those circumstances, As the saying goes "You can only piss with the cock you got" Good luck with the recovery fella 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 3 minutes ago, Kingman said: I Really don't get this beef for Wesley, He got stuck up front as a lone striker, Didn't get the required service in a system that has since been back heeled. IMO he did the best he could do under those circumstances, As the saying goes "You can only piss with the cock you got" Good luck with the recovery fella He got the service. Problem is Wesley finds himself in midfield whenever we put a cross in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smartin Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 3 hours ago, KenjiOgiwara said: The signings this window make sense. It's absolutely obvious we are restricted from spending due to FFP, so I won't go batshit over the signing of a championship reject. Pitarch has not disappointed or impressed so far. I'll give him another year I reckon. That's good of you 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenjiOgiwara Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 3 minutes ago, Kingman said: I Really don't get this beef for Wesley, He got stuck up front as a lone striker, Didn't get the required service in a system that has since been back heeled. IMO he did the best he could do under those circumstances, As the saying goes "You can only piss with the cock you got" Good luck with the recovery fella Hahaha. No. We created plenty and the stats show that. He just either missed or wasn't where a striker should be. Can already see the classic case of VT 'player not played for a while suddenly is transformed to a better player than he is' syndrom. He's been absolutely **** shite. Piss poor. There's nothing else to it. We all wanted him to do well, but he hasn't. He had two alright performances before he got crocked. And he wasn't amazing then, just alright. But as a whole he's been a catastrophic signing. Up there with the worst in our history considering the importance of the season, the money we paid, how often he's played etc. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughable Chimp Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Kingman said: I Really don't get this beef for Wesley, He got stuck up front as a lone striker, Didn't get the required service in a system that has since been back heeled. IMO he did the best he could do under those circumstances, As the saying goes "You can only piss with the cock you got" Good luck with the recovery fella For his position, understat shows that he actually got close to the average amount of xG that a striker would get compared to the average(0.35 to the average of 0.37). The idea that he simply didn't get enough service is just not true. Edited February 1, 2020 by Laughable Chimp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 Do you words removed sit in the lower/mid Trinity by any chance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 1 hour ago, Kingman said: I Really don't get this beef for Wesley, He got stuck up front as a lone striker, Didn't get the required service in a system that has since been back heeled. IMO he did the best he could do under those circumstances, As the saying goes "You can only piss with the cock you got" Good luck with the recovery fella Not even the evidence provided of the potential upon the system change will change some people stances. It's a "That's my story and I'm sticking to it" type mentality. As well as the purposeful non acknowledgment of the whole team behind him performing shite. These shouldn't have been moaning when we had no striker, as playing with him was like playing with 10 men, so the team should have flourished. Anyway this horse has been beaten dead and revived so many times it's boring. God help the new recruits. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, KenjiOgiwara said: Hahaha. No. We created plenty and the stats show that. He just either missed or wasn't where a striker should be. Can already see the classic case of VT 'player not played for a while suddenly is transformed to a better player than he is' syndrom. He's been absolutely **** shite. Piss poor. There's nothing else to it. We all wanted him to do well, but he hasn't. He had two alright performances before he got crocked. And he wasn't amazing then, just alright. But as a whole he's been a catastrophic signing. Up there with the worst in our history considering the importance of the season, the money we paid, how often he's played etc. The irony is in his last 2 performances before his injury YOU started saying you thought he did well, which I thought was admirable based on your previously Hardline criticism, now you've reverted to form. Is this boredom or bandwagonism? We were playing awesome and creating loads of chances lol. From what I remember the midfield couldn't string 5 passes together and the defenders couldn't defend. Which was even admitted by Jack in his last post match interview. Edited February 1, 2020 by JAMAICAN-VILLAN 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenjiOgiwara Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 3 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: The irony is in his last 2 performances before his injury you started saying you thought he did well, which I thought was admirable, now you've reverted to form. Is this boredom or bandwagonism? We were playing awesome and creating loads of chances lol. From what I remember the midfield couldn't string 5 passes together and the defenders couldn't defend. Which was even admitted by Jack in his last post match interview. Are you quite well? I literally state in the post you quoted that he did better those matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, KenjiOgiwara said: Are you quite well? I literally state in the post you quoted that he did better those matches. Yet he is "up there with our worst signings in history", based on half a season in a newly promoted, overall poorly performing team.... in a system which wasn't suiting any of them. Off the top of my head, players like Stan Petrov were "shite" for a whole season. Anyway again, pointless. Edited February 1, 2020 by JAMAICAN-VILLAN 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenjiOgiwara Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 3 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Yet he is "up there with our worst signings in history", based on half a season in a newly promoted, overall poorly performing team.... in a system which wasn't suiting any of them. Off the top of my head, players like Stan Petrov were "shite" for a whole season. Anyway again, pointless. Then why start talking about bandwagons? I've always been very clear in my opinion of him. Simply because you think your warped wrong view of something is the truth doesn't mean it's okey accuse people of this and that. Or create scenarios that never happened. Personally I couldn't give a flying **** what you find admirable. So thanks for the chuckle. And yes on every sensible metric you can find he's among our worst flops ever. Anyone not coloured by some kind of weird ass loyalty can see this. He's a joke among the fans I know of other clubs and that says much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M_Afro Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 1 hour ago, KenjiOgiwara said: Wesley is really the only really bad grade I can give him so far. That signing alone is catastrophicly bad. It really isn’t. He will come good. According to Transfer Market, which is usually very conservative with it’s valuations, he is already worth more than we paid for him, Therefore, even if he doesn’t nail a place down with us, which he will, we are likely to sell at profit. Hardly catastrophic! Hogan says hello 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 3 hours ago, Dr_Pangloss said: I'm not massively impressed with his work over the two windows in all honesty but if we do stay up then it's hard to complain too much since that is the only objective this season. The jury is out. That's fair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 1 hour ago, KenjiOgiwara said: Wesley is really the only really bad grade I can give him so far. That signing alone is catastrophicly bad. And yet he had 1 less goal than Benteke same stage in debut season where Benteke scored 19 by season end and Wesley looked like clicking into place vs Burnley where we absolutely bossed 1st half and should've been 3-0 up 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 1 hour ago, Kingman said: I Really don't get this beef for Wesley, He got stuck up front as a lone striker, Didn't get the required service in a system that has since been back heeled. IMO he did the best he could do under those circumstances, As the saying goes "You can only piss with the cock you got" Good luck with the recovery fella This is part of the issue. It was the same with Hogan. It's always the fault of everyone else. In Grealish we have someone up there with De Bruyne for chances created yet people genuinely believe Wesley had no service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 When did we become such a bunch of knobheads or have we always been like this but I’ve not noticed before?! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 1 minute ago, Kiwivillan said: And yet he had 1 less goal than Benteke same stage in debut season where Benteke scored 19 by season end and Wesley looked like clicking into place vs Burnley where we absolutely bossed 1st half and should've been 3-0 up You keep bringing up Benteke. It's such a daft argument. Benteke put in performances early on that Wesley could not come close to. The idea that because benteke scored loads 2nd half of the season means wesley could have as well is based on blind hope. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 Just now, bannedfromHandV said: When did we become such a bunch of knobheads or have we always been like this but I’ve not noticed before?! Always I think. Some people wrote some disgusting things when bruce was linked with the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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