Contracts (Squad list)

[gwi1890]

11 minutes ago, Junxs said:

With the first part of the window closed, a good time to evaluate our squad and see where we stand with the 25 man rule:

GK: Martinez, Heaton, Steer, Kalinic

DEF: Mings, Konsa, Engels, Hause, Targett, Taylor, Cash, Elmohammady, Guilbert

MID: Luiz*, Nakamba, McGinn, Hourihane, Barkley, Lansbury, Ramsey*

WING: Grealish, Trezeguet, El Ghazi, Traore

FWD: Watkins, Wesley, Davis*

*Not including the U21s I make that 25 so you can see why Jota and Nyland were released

Are David and Luiz still classed are U21? I know they are both 22, Ramsey is 20 if all 3 don’t need to be registered then it a 23 man squad

[Junxs]

Just now, gwi1890 said:

Are David and Luiz still classed are U21? I know they are both 22, Ramsey is 20 if all 3 don’t need to be registered then it a 23 man squad

Yeah, apparently they look at the age of the player 1st January in the calendar year which makes no sense, but that's how it works 

[KevinRichardsonsMoustache]

17 minutes ago, Junxs said:

With the first part of the window closed, a good time to evaluate our squad and see where we stand with the 25 man rule:

GK: Martinez, Heaton, Steer, Kalinic

DEF: Mings, Konsa, Engels, Hause, Targett, Taylor, Cash, Elmohammady, Guilbert

MID: Luiz*, Nakamba, McGinn, Hourihane, Barkley, Lansbury, Ramsey*

WING: Grealish, Trezeguet, El Ghazi, Traore

FWD: Watkins, Wesley, Davis*

*Not including the U21s I make that 25 so you can see why Jota and Nyland were released

Makes a difference seeing it like this, @Junxs. Thank you for posting it.

 

Compared to the year we came up, it's night and day. Just goes to show we're making progress:

Kalinik

Steer

Nyland

Chester

Taylor

Elmohamady

De Laet

Bree

Hourihane

McGinn

Lansbury

Bjarnason

Tshibola

Grealish

McCormack Kodjia Hogan Adomah Davis Green

[ramshackler]

21 minutes ago, Junxs said:

With the first part of the window closed, a good time to evaluate our squad and see where we stand with the 25 man rule:

GK: Martinez, Heaton, Steer, Kalinic

DEF: Mings, Konsa, Engels, Hause, Targett, Taylor, Cash, Elmohammady, Guilbert

MID: Luiz*, Nakamba, McGinn, Hourihane, Barkley, Lansbury, Ramsey*

WING: Grealish, Trezeguet, El Ghazi, Traore

FWD: Watkins, Wesley, Davis*

*Not including the U21s I make that 25 so you can see why Jota and Nyland were released

24 not including the u21s surely?

[Junxs]

2 minutes ago, ramshackler said:

24 not including the u21s surely?

Damn I can't count!! 24 it is! haha

[Phil Silvers]

2 minutes ago, KevinRichardsonsMoustache said:

Makes a difference seeing it like this, @Junxs. Thank you for posting it.

 

Compared to the year we came up, it's night and day. Just goes to show we're making progress:

Kalinik

Steer

Nyland

Chester

Taylor

Elmohamady

De Laet

Bree

Hourihane

McGinn

Lansbury

Bjarnason

Tshibola

Grealish

McCormack Kodjia Hogan Adomah Davis Green

At the rate we are moving at ahead of our plans, can't wait for our glorious future to unfold (touches wood).

[Mjvilla]

Can anyone tell me where to get a list of contract expiry dates and in particular, whose contracts will expire next summer. Will be interesting, for me, to look at that squad list minus players that will be out of contract next summer. 

I presume we will be seeing the last of the old regime leaving and will be interesting to see what the recruitment team will be looking at for next year. We can keep an eye on who performs well this year and perhaps look at targets as the season progresses! 

Also, I'm going to say it now, I can seriously see us signing Barkley on a permanent next year if this loan goes well. He really seemed to be happy the other day, I've never seen the guy smile so much. Regular gametime, a bit of love from teammates and supporters and I don't think he would want to go back to being 5th choice in a Chelsea squad.

[Aston_Villan4]

2 minutes ago, Mjvilla said:

Can anyone tell me where to get a list of contract expiry dates and in particular, whose contracts will expire next summer. Will be interesting, for me, to look at that squad list minus players that will be out of contract next summer. 

I presume we will be seeing the last of the old regime leaving and will be interesting to see what the recruitment team will be looking at for next year. We can keep an eye on who performs well this year and perhaps look at targets as the season progresses! 

Also, I'm going to say it now, I can seriously see us signing Barkley on a permanent next year if this loan goes well. He really seemed to be happy the other day, I've never seen the guy smile so much. Regular gametime, a bit of love from teammates and supporters and I don't think he would want to go back to being 5th choice in a Chelsea squad.

https://www.transfermarkt.us/aston-villa/berateruebersicht/verein/405

[sne]

2 minutes ago, Mjvilla said:

Can anyone tell me where to get a list of contract expiry dates and in particular, whose contracts will expire next summer. Will be interesting, for me, to look at that squad list minus players that will be out of contract next summer. 

I presume we will be seeing the last of the old regime leaving and will be interesting to see what the recruitment team will be looking at for next year. We can keep an eye on who performs well this year and perhaps look at targets as the season progresses! 

Also, I'm going to say it now, I can seriously see us signing Barkley on a permanent next year if this loan goes well. He really seemed to be happy the other day, I've never seen the guy smile so much. Regular gametime, a bit of love from teammates and supporters and I don't think he would want to go back to being 5th choice in a Chelsea squad.

Transfermarkt is usually a good place to look. Not 100% accurate but pretty good.

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#	Player	Nat.	Contract expires	Agent
14	Conor Hourihane Central Midfield		-
15	Bertrand Traoré Right Winger		-	ISM Int. Soccer Mgmt. GmbH
8	Henri Lansbury Central Midfield		30.06.2021
27	Ahmed Elmohamady Right-Back		30.06.2021	no agent
3	Neil Taylor Left-Back		30.06.2021	New Era Global Sports
30	Kortney Hause Centre-Back		30.06.2022	Coda Independent Sports
1	Tom Heaton Goalkeeper		30.06.2023	10Ten Football
28	Lovre Kalinic Goalkeeper		30.06.2023	Pharos Sport Agency
12	Jed Steer Goalkeeper		30.06.2023	Stellar Football Ltd
21	Anwar El Ghazi Right Winger		30.06.2023	Gestifute
17	Trezeguet Left Winger		30.06.2023	DW Sports Management
18	Matt Targett Left-Back		30.06.2023	Straight Ace Sports
24	Frédéric Guilbert Right-Back		30.06.2023	Wonder Sports
4	Ezri Konsa Centre-Back		30.06.2023	Stellar Football Ltd
6	Douglas Luiz Defensive Midfield		30.06.2023	Carlos Leite
26	Emiliano Martínez Goalkeeper		30.06.2024
7	John McGinn Central Midfield		30.06.2024
22	Björn Engels Centre-Back		30.06.2024	SportPlus Football Management
5	Tyrone Mings Centre-Back		30.06.2024	Wasserman
19	Marvelous Nakamba Defensive Midfield		30.06.2024	DW Sports Management
9	Wesley Centre-Forward		30.06.2024	Football Capital
39	Keinan Davis Centre-Forward		30.06.2024	Base Soccer Agency Ltd
10	Jack Grealish  Left Winger		30.06.2025	Stellar Football Ltd
11	Ollie Watkins Centre-Forward		30.06.2025	Two Touch Agency
2	Matty Cash Right-Back		30.06.2025	Simply Sport Management Ltd
20	Ross Barkley Central Midfield		31.05.2021	Wasserman

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/aston-villa/berateruebersicht/verein/405

[Mjvilla]

Thanks @Aston_Villan4 and @sne. Going by that, Elmo, Taylor and Lansbury will all leave. And, depending on what happens with guilbert, only Taylor leaving would need someone bringing in to play in that position.

I think next year's priority will be LB, hopefully one good enough to see targett become back up. I also think CM will be a priority depending on what happens with Barkley and Luiz. If they both stay then we will be set in those positions. 

Then, it'll be strength in depth at CB and perhaps a new winger. We've obviously come a long way in 2 years, but there's still work to be done. 

Another question, when does hourihanes contract run too? It doesn't say on there.

[sne]

3 minutes ago, Mjvilla said:

Another question, when does hourihanes contract run too? It doesn't say on there.

From what I can find he signed a 2 year extension last year so that contract would end next summer. But I'm not sure that is correct.

Might be missing it but not finding any actual details on the new deal

 

[Aston_Villan4]

2 minutes ago, Mjvilla said:

Thanks @Aston_Villan4 and @sne. Going by that, Elmo, Taylor and Lansbury will all leave. And, depending on what happens with guilbert, only Taylor leaving would need someone bringing in to play in that position.

I think next year's priority will be LB, hopefully one good enough to see targett become back up. I also think CM will be a priority depending on what happens with Barkley and Luiz. If they both stay then we will be set in those positions. 

Then, it'll be strength in depth at CB and perhaps a new winger. We've obviously come a long way in 2 years, but there's still work to be done. 

Another question, when does hourihanes contract run too? It doesn't say on there.

I don’t know if Villa ever officially announced the terms of his deal but Wikipedia claims Hourihane signed a new 3 year deal in July 2019.

[sidcow]

9 minutes ago, Aston_Villan4 said:

I don’t know if Villa ever officially announced the terms of his deal but Wikipedia claims Hourihane signed a new 3 year deal in July 2019.

Bit literally every other source says next summer.  I was trying to work this out last week.

[barry'sboots]

9 minutes ago, Mjvilla said:

I think next year's priority will be LB, hopefully one good enough to see targett become back up. I also think CM will be a priority depending on what happens with Barkley and Luiz. If they both stay then we will be set in those positions. 

Then, it'll be strength in depth at CB and perhaps a new winger. We've obviously come a long way in 2 years, but there's still work to be done. 

Another question, when does hourihanes contract run too? It doesn't say on there.

As for LB, I guess it depends how well Targett does this year.  The Liverpool game was the best I have seen Targett play in a long time.  Whatever happens, we will need back up/competition with Taylor, hopefully, moving on.

I agree with your Barkley & Luiz comment but would ideally want better back up for SJM (Lansbury is hopeless and CH has not got the engine to play as a box to box midfielder) and possibly an upgrade on Nakamba, depending how he does when he gets a chance this season.  I haven't seen enough of Ramsey to know whether he is a box to box/"8" or a more attack minded "10"?

I'm still hopeful that we get Benrhama in this window and loan out AEG to a Championship club.  I would love for us to be able to bring in David Brooks, or similar, next season and have him competing with Traore for a starting spot on the RW.

The big question for me is how Wes will do on his return.  Is he good enough to be Watkins' cover/rotation or would we need to upgrade in 12 months?

[sidcow]

Looks like we lose Neil Taylor on a free next summer as well.  Will need to replace him and Elmo.   2 new fullbacks top of the shopping list next summer then.

[MaVilla]

11 minutes ago, sidcow said:

Looks like we lose Neil Taylor on a free next summer as well.  Will need to replace him and Elmo.   2 new fullbacks top of the shopping list next summer then.

Wouldnt be surprised if Kesler was promoted to understudy for cash next season, meaning we only actually need a LB from the two exits.

[mjmooney]

Christ, is Douglas only 22? He plays with the assurance of a much more experienced player. 

[Aston_Villan4]

7 hours ago, sidcow said:

Bit literally every other source says next summer.  I was trying to work this out last week.

Well when he signed the new deal, supposed, 3 year deal he still had 2 years left on his original contract. Maybe that’s what people are referring to by saying next summer?

[Pez1974]

8 hours ago, sne said:

Transfermarkt is usually a good place to look. Not 100% accurate but pretty good.

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/aston-villa/berateruebersicht/verein/405

I use Sportrac alongside Transfermarkt - https://www.spotrac.com/Premier League/aston-villa-fc/contracts/ 
Usually gives the facts between them, although it doesn't always update quickly (damn these free websites!)

This suggests that Lansbury (£2.1m per season), Taylor (£0.4m), Elmo (£1.3m) and Conor (£1.56m) will be out of contract in summer 2021 - or about what Barkley earns a season between them.

Conor is atough one - he'll be 30 in February, and his next contract falls into the "last big one" of his career category. And signing Barkley on loan might mean he chooses to move on. Honestly, I'm hoping by then we don't really care, and wish him good luck as he signs for whoever comes up through the play offs next year.

It seems we only have Hause out of contract in 2022 (£0.4m per season) - so some stability is in the offing.

As an aside - given when Taylor signed - he needs a new agent if the wages are true. No wonder they aren't desperate to get rid. Guilbert is on £2m a season if the website is to be believed!

Finally - Konsa is showing at £0.4m per season and McGinn at £1.3m (they are contracted until 2023 and 2024 respectively). They'll be wanting a pay rise soon, given other salaries were paying.

[nepal_villan]

I imagine next summer's window being pretty straight forward - replacing Taylor, Lansbury and CH with upgrades at their respective positions and swapping Elmo for a new CB.  I could see the club giving Elmo a short-term extension as well to be an emergency back-up option at three positions (RB, CB, RW). Fact that one of our owners is Egyptian might be a factor.