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[Follyfoot]

Signings , shynings, Where’s my F****ing theme park

[villalad21]

14 hours ago, Pissflaps said:

That's the key point to temper excitement. If the cheating bullshit FFP racket didn't exist to stop teams threatening the Super League Spackers we could really push forwards even quicker but we are limited despite having owners that may be willing and possible to invest even more, but can't.

Spot on 

Man city and Chelsea very lucky they got cash injection at a time where there were no restrictions 

[VillaJ100]

2 minutes ago, villalad21 said:

Spot on 

Man city and Chelsea very lucky they got cash injection at a time where there were no restrictions 

Well, so did we. Lerner's takeover was our chance to get up there and established before City really got going. However he went with O'Neill and his favourites/has beens, got divorced and lost half his money, saw man city get took over not by one but a consortium of billionaires of which the poorest is worth like 5 billion... and baulked

[Hank Scorpio]

Just now, VillaJ100 said:

Well, so did we. Lerner's takeover was our chance to get up there and established before City really got going. However he went with O'Neill and his favourites/has beens, got divorced and lost half his money, saw man city get took over not by one but a consortium of billionaires of which the poorest is worth like 5 billion... and baulked

Indeed all true. Still we are where we are now and we can't take full advantage of our luck in having seemingly good owners.

[villalad21]

3 minutes ago, VillaJ100 said:

Well, so did we. Lerner's takeover was our chance to get up there and established before City really got going. However he went with O'Neill and his favourites/has beens, got divorced and lost half his money, saw man city get took over not by one but a consortium of billionaires of which the poorest is worth like 5 billion... and baulked

Difference is we bought Heskey. Man City bought Aguero

[blandy]

On 06/06/2021 at 11:08, OutByEaster? said:

Dear NSWE,

So, we just finished in our highest league position for ten years, our season tickets are being renewed at the fastest rate in our history and the waiting list to get one is now at over ten thousand people, we've just broken our transfer record for the third straight summer in bringing in a full Argentinian international, to go with our other full Argentinian international, and we've beaten out Arsenal for both of those signings. In our last two games we've beaten Spurs and Chelsea and we're about to go into a European Championships where England's star player is also Villa's star player and Captain. We've expanded our training ground twice, once for the first team and then with a specific facility for the youth teams, who have just won our first FA Youth Cup in almost twenty years and feature some of the country's most talented young players. We're run by competent people, from the CEO with experience at Liverpool and Chelsea, to the youth coaches we've lured from the best academies in the country. One of ours has just scored more goals for Scotland in a season than any player in twenty years (he's not a striker, our main striker is now part of the England set up) he's a midfielder who plays next to the Brazilian international we have. We matched our record for clean sheets last season and sold out Villa Park for the thirteen games prior to lockdown, there are talks around expanding the stadium and we're investing millions in building an inner city academy just around the corner from it. 

How do you think it's going?

The thing is, and I'm sure I'm not alone in this, while what NSWE (and others at the club now) have done with Villa is absolutely excellent, I always believed it could happen. Always. And, obviously, wanted it to happen. From the days of HDE, through Randy and Xia, it's what I thought the club was inherently capable of being, if only...

And finally, it looks like we've got people in charge who not also share that belief but know how to make it happen and act on making it happen. I don't know if they identified Villa as having that capability inherent within the club, or whether they just got lucky with timing and were sort of after any club and we fans got lucky too as a consequence. Well, we got lucky either way, I guess.

The only thing different to what I always hoped for is the money side of things - I never really got my head round the arms race that is now the Premier league in terms of people spending huge sums of their own money on clubs - not just buying them, but financing them. I guess the world has changed a lot since I've been a fan. But even then, the money they've put in is getting a return on that investment, it's not just money down the drain.

NSWE have put the club in the best place it's been for 25 years. Sure Randy Lerner at the start did a great deal, but he never put in place the stuff and the people to take advantage of his (then) enthusiasm and money, these guys are different. They know what they're doing and employ people who know what they're doing, they're not winging it. SO I go back to about '96, when we'd won the second League cup in 3 years, the Prem was in its infancy and Villa were finishing in the top 4...and subsequently utterly failed to build on that, through small time, complacent, hubris from you know who.

And that brings me round to your question. I hope the answer is something like "we're pleased, but there's an awful lot more to do and we have a plan to do it".

Good on 'em.

[Panto_Villan]

The thing that makes me happy about the way these guys are approaching things is that there's a definite plan here. It's not just a case of hiring a flash manager and handing him a big transfer kitty, but we've also brought in a lot of expertise in a lot of backroom areas (lots of assistant managers, Lange and his scouting network, etc) and even more importantly we've brought in someone well-respected to run the Academy and then given them the financial backing to get the players he wants in. I love to see us just hoovering up all the talented kids for our youth teams because to me it shows that our owners understand that you can't half-arse things if you want to compete at the top, and that they're willing to invest in this project for at least a 5-10 year horizon.

It's quite telling to me that we got Buendia because we were decisive - we met Norwich's valuation immediately, and apparently Lange had been chatting to him and telling him that he was our number 1 target for this window. We didn't mess the club or the player around and so he ended up joining us instead of a London club with bigger name appeal.

What a great time to be a Villa fan. I really hope we get another couple of marquee signings in before the season starts because we'll be favourites for the European places if we do.

[sidcow]

48 minutes ago, blandy said:

The thing is, and I'm sure I'm not alone in this, while what NSWE (and others at the club now) have done with Villa is absolutely excellent, I always believed it could happen. Always. And, obviously, wanted it to happen. From the days of HDE, through Randy and Xia, it's what I thought the club was inherently capable of being, if only...

And finally, it looks like we've got people in charge who not also share that belief but know how to make it happen and act on making it happen. I don't know if they identified Villa as having that capability inherent within the club, or whether they just got lucky with timing and were sort of after any club and we fans got lucky too as a consequence. Well, we got lucky either way, I guess.

The only thing different to what I always hoped for is the money side of things - I never really got my head round the arms race that is now the Premier league in terms of people spending huge sums of their own money on clubs - not just buying them, but financing them. I guess the world has changed a lot since I've been a fan. But even then, the money they've put in is getting a return on that investment, it's not just money down the drain.

NSWE have put the club in the best place it's been for 25 years. Sure Randy Lerner at the start did a great deal, but he never put in place the stuff and the people to take advantage of his (then) enthusiasm and money, these guys are different. They know what they're doing and employ people who know what they're doing, they're not winging it. SO I go back to about '96, when we'd won the second League cup in 3 years, the Prem was in its infancy and Villa were finishing in the top 4...and subsequently utterly failed to build on that, through small time, complacent, hubris from you know who.

And that brings me round to your question. I hope the answer is something like "we're pleased, but there's an awful lot more to do and we have a plan to do it".

Good on 'em.

It always makes me laugh when other fans say how lucky we are when finding rich owners. 

But the truth is it's no coincidence. The potential is there. We were a bigger club than Chelsea and Man City before their takeovers, those owners could have easily have made Villa as big as those clubs are, it might even easier with us to some extent.

We're a no brainer, a club with massive potential, massive local fanbase and unrivalled in our locality.  Any billionaire looking for a club which are cheap to buy and can go places would invest in us. 

We've just been so so badly run for such a long time. 

We came second in the first year of The Premier League. Ellis could at that time have grasped the nettle and made us as big as Arsenal but he didn't, his usual penny pinching held us back and we failed to capitalise on this new world order. 

Lerner definitely saw it but again due to bad management went about it all the wrong way.  He spent the money to achieve it but that was it, everything he did other than the cash was bad decision after bad decision.  By the end he'd lost so much money, and lost half of what he had left in a divorce and just left us to rot.  

Then came Xia, the final act of Lerner's incompetence. Sold us to a complete chancer who had a sham of a business empire and no money.  He was the worst disaster of the lot and nearly saw the end of this great club. 

So  now we find NSWE who saw us for exactly what we are. A club WITH MASSIVE potential. A club where if you have the resources and know how to do it you can take us to the top.   They saw the same as what Lerner saw but they are much much cleverer and know what to do. 

Sure it's much harder for them now because FFP means they can't just go and buy a load of superstars like Citeh did, and because the likes of Chelsea are so established, there is a crowd at the top now. 

However who saw Arsenal falling from grace like they have? Who saw Leicester winning the league and regularly pressurising those at the top. 

Things change. The top clubs themselves are badly run with lots of poor underperforming players on massive wages they can't shift hemorrhaging money out of them, that's why the wanted the ESL because they're all staring into the abyss somewhat. 

So for me NSWE are the right guys at the right time at the right club.  They can do this they really can. 

Liverpool scraped top 4, Chelsea were not sure, United had a good season but I've a suspicion they might struggle to repeat it.  Only Citeh look set in stone right now,  but who knows, the world is starting to wean itself off oil slowly but surely, maybe their owners will look to reinvest elsewhere for more guaranteed returns. 

There is a real chance to smash this cartel there really is. 

 

[Paulie]

Just for reference, here’s the last starting XI we played before NSWE bought the club.  Incredible how far we have come.

 

 

[villan-scott]

18 minutes ago, Paulie said:

Just for reference, here’s the last starting XI we played before NSWE bought the club.  Incredible how far we have come.

 

 

Wow. Forgot we had Grabban for half a season in the Championship! 

[villalad21]

6 hours ago, Paulie said:

Just for reference, here’s the last starting XI we played before NSWE bought the club.  Incredible how far we have come.

 

 

Not a bad championship team tbf 

[Guest av1]

On the very slim chance that anyone from senior management views this thread I just want to say thank you. 2yrs ago I thought that the club I loved was going into administration, fast forward 2yrs and I’m dreaming of Europe (actually I’m just dreaming of beating those bastards Manchester) 

Purslow deserves credit as well, but you guys have allowed me to dream again, and isn’t that what sport is all about?

Thank you  

[His Name Is Death]

In any case, I'm very happy with the way things are going now, and we seem to have a good pair of heads in charge (for the moment).

[villalad21]

3 minutes ago, His Name Is Death said:

In any case, I'm very happy with the way things are going now, and we seem to have a good pair of heads in charge (for the moment).

Just hope some of the academy boys makes it.

Success would feel better seeing your local boys doing well for you rather than everything just being bought.

[His Name Is Death]

Just now, villalad21 said:

Just hope some of the academy boys makes it.

Success would feel better seeing your local boys doing well for you rather than everything just being bought.

Yes, I agree with that. I like that we're investing in a sizeable home-grown/British contingent for the first and youth teams without going full-on Burnley.

[Nicho]

The Buendia signing and the Grealish speculation is starting make people notice our owners.

You would expect people to know about them but the self interest and the media attention on the top 6 means most are not aware. Especially foreign fans of the top 6, you see in the comments on social media that they are unaware.

Starting to see more comments and articles on our owners and ambition, people starting to notice, part of that is due to Jack imo but anyone anything to do with football knows.

My mate was a coach at baggies and he said when we took Harrison that we were planning big things with youth.

Our training ground is class, stadium plans underway, our staff infrastructure, scouting and transfers.

The other sense I’m getting and this might be the claret and blue glasses, there’s a bit of an “oh ****” moment going on, there’s a big boy back in town with the funds, business aggression and agility and most importantly a plan. 

[sidcow]

4 minutes ago, Nicho said:

The Buendia signing and the Grealish speculation is starting make people notice our owners.

You would expect people to know about them but the self interest and the media attention on the top 6 means most are not aware. Especially foreign fans of the top 6, you see in the comments on social media that they are unaware.

Starting to see more comments and articles on our owners and ambition, people starting to notice, part of that is due to Jack imo but anyone anything to do with football knows.

My mate was a coach at baggies and he said when we took Harrison that we were planning big things with youth.

Our training ground is class, stadium plans underway, our staff infrastructure, scouting and transfers.

The other sense I’m getting and this might be the claret and blue glasses, there’s a bit of an “oh ****” moment going on, there’s a big boy back in town with the funds, business aggression and agility and most importantly a plan. 

Surprising really, it's actually a very good story.

Think back to the coverage of Mansour when he took over Citeh, the press were lapping it up. 

I guess it goes hand in hand with our owners not really shouting from the rooftops and just getting on with stuff...which I like.

[Phil Silvers]

[pas5898]

2 minutes ago, Phil Silvers said:

Again, keep saying. These guys are absolutely loaded but incredibly intelligent. 

If they sold a few players and the club tomorrow they'd make money. 

 

[Villaphan04]

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