DCJonah Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 13 hours ago, TRO said: and Tammy. Both who were there under Bruce, while we sat bottom half of the championship. Strange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 11 minutes ago, DCJonah said: Both who were there under Bruce, while we sat bottom half of the championship. Strange. We were 2 pts off 6th. It's not like we were way off drift. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 Just now, villalad21 said: We were 2 pts off 6th. It's not like we were way off drift. And yet we sacked bruce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, DCJonah said: And yet we sacked bruce. The right decision. Turned ugly with the fans, there were no repairing that. I'm just so tired of mediocre British manager appointments. I am so envious on Leeds landing Bielsa. Edited June 28, 2020 by villalad21 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 Just now, villalad21 said: The right decision. Turned ugly with the fans, there were no repairing that. I'm just so tired of mediocre British manager appointments. I am so envious on Leeds getting Bielsa. A mediocre Argentinian manager who is all hype no end product His trophy cabinet is embarrassing for his hype Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 1 minute ago, Zatman said: A mediocre Argentinian manager who is all hype no end product His trophy cabinet is embarrassing for his hype You have labeled him as a bottler yet he is currently winning the Championship. 8 point gap to 3rd place now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 1 minute ago, villalad21 said: You have labeled him as a bottler yet he is currently winning the Championship. 8 point gap to 3rd place now. Yes. He has managed for 30 years amd has bottled many times. If he doesn't bottle it this season then it will be a rare example of keeping his bottle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 1 minute ago, Zatman said: Yes. He has managed for 30 years amd has bottled many times. If he doesn't bottle it this season then it will be a rare example of keeping his bottle So in your opinion if a manager isn't winning trophies they are shit? What does that make Dean Smith then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 1 minute ago, villalad21 said: So in your opinion if a manager isn't winning trophies they are shit? What does that make Dean Smith then? If a manager had a worldwide reputation as a genius then he should have big trophies in his cabinet As for Dean Smith 2019 Playoff winner a tournament Bielsa also bottled 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 If he finishes mid table in the Premier League next season i'm sure you would say he bottled it since he didn't manage to win the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limpid Posted June 28, 2020 Administrator Share Posted June 28, 2020 Back on topic please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 Purslow has overseen the club spend an absolute fortune on rubbish. He should be held accountable and if I were the owners I’d be asking him what the hell he was thinking. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 Didn’t Purslow bring in Roy Hodgson when he was at Liverpool? Now I like Roy. Be he was never gonna hack it at a club like Liverpool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciggiesnbeer Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 7 hours ago, Eastie said: Very interesting read and shows the disdain for purslow elsewhere - Tyrrell operated behind the scenes but Purslow craved attention. The players nicknamed him ‘Forrest Gump’ because of his tendency to insert himself at the centre of every situation. The managing director had a more grandiose view when he looked in the mirror: he referred to himself as ‘the Fernando Torres of finance.’ He liked to be around the star players, making a beeline for the striker and Steven Gerrard whenever he entered the dressing room. It became a running joke within the squad. https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/aston-villa-vs-liverpool-why-christian-purslow-paul-tyrrell-villains-anfield-a9180396.html The author does seem very annoyed by his personal snubbing by Liverpool's previous ownership though. Makes it hard to see whether or not Purlow did a bad job or not. Tony Evans comes across like a very bitter small man. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciggiesnbeer Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 3 hours ago, villalad21 said: The right decision. Turned ugly with the fans, there were no repairing that. I'm just so tired of mediocre British manager appointments. I am so envious on Leeds landing Bielsa. Agreed. No more British tat please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjvilla Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 12 hours ago, AvfcRigo82 said: IIRC, Jack was out injured for quite some time. Around this same time Smith was coming under the same pressure as he is now. Jack came back and we went on a sensational run of form which propelled us up the league and saved Smith's arse on that occasion. It's all on Smith because he is the one who is in charge of the players and their performances and the results that come with that. With all the talking Smith has done of "his team setup mirror him" and "killing teams off before half time" etc. is all well and good, but this season the only team looking to be killed off by half time has been us. The reflection of that hasn't been pleasant viewing. So, why didn't Grealish bring us up the year before? Why are we not outside the relegation zone because of Grealish. Whatever you say, you and many others, are crediting the players for when we do well but blaming the manager when it all goes wrong. It doesn't work like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Mjvilla said: So, why didn't Grealish bring us up the year before? Why are we not outside the relegation zone because of Grealish. Whatever you say, you and many others, are crediting the players for when we do well but blaming the manager when it all goes wrong. It doesn't work like that. That's the way you have made it appear and insinuate. Anyway, The year before last he almost did! - We got beat in the final though and under a different manager! We're not outside the relegation zone through both Jack and the current manager not pulling their weight this season and not being setup effectively. It's also a different league with a different team of players to that of the 2019 season. Edited June 28, 2020 by AvfcRigo82 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjvilla Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 (edited) 27 minutes ago, AvfcRigo82 said: That's the way you have made it appear and insinuate. Anyway, The year before last he almost did, We got beat in the final though and under a different manager. We're not outside the relegation zone through both Jack and the current manager not pulling their weight this season. It's also a different league with a different team of players to that of the 2019 season. I haven't done anything to insinuate that. It's on this site in black and white. "We got promoted because of jack and Tammy." A high percentage want the manager gone now. I don't have to make anything appear when it's there waiting for you. Edited June 28, 2020 by Mjvilla To clarify for avfcrigo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjvilla Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 4 hours ago, villalad21 said: If he finishes mid table in the Premier League next season i'm sure you would say he bottled it since he didn't manage to win the league. Ifs and buts are easy. You can't respond to @Zatman s facts with its and buts. Pathetic again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 21 minutes ago, Mjvilla said: I haven't done anything to insinuate that. It's on this site in black and white. We got promoted because of jack and Tammy. So you also agree it was Jack that got us promoted and saved Smith? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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