Stevo985 Posted January 7, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted January 7, 2019 I think we'd need to sign someone else. But I also think people are underselling Kodjia's ability in the central role. He seems to be a bit of a forgotten man in that regard. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazrim Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 I think he has to say that otherwise he's a) putting a lot of pressure on the guy we might get in and b) not empowering the players already here to step up and compete. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 20 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: The thing is Hogan has flopped here. At Brentford he is a legend. It's like us not wanting benteke back, we would as he was excellent here. The fee is the real issue I think. We really wouldn't. He's utter shit and he is finished. One season wonder. Hogan was ruined at Villa and don't thunk Brentford would take him now either. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted January 7, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted January 7, 2019 4 minutes ago, Mazrim said: b) not empowering the players already here to step up and compete. That's a good point. He can hardly say "yeah we definitely need to sign someone!!" because as you say, people like Kodjia and *shudder* Hogan will hear that and think "Oh great, cheers. Thanks for having faith in me" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 10 minutes ago, Nigel said: Smith has as good as said we already have replacements here. If Tammy leaves it's unlikely we will be getting anyone in to replace him. Kodja. That's it. Hogan is just dour. Davis needs to show he is able first before we throw him in. Hepburn-Murphy needs loaned out to gain experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QldVilla Posted January 7, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted January 7, 2019 (edited) 13 hours ago, TRO said: If i was him and considering the last 6 games or so.......i would go. he and a few others at Villa are doing all the work, in terms of carrying the torch.....and if i was Jack, i would do the same. He is making the right decision. the sooner we drop promotion talk and concentrate on building a team the better. I don't see it that way, there's many reasons why the form is the way it is at the moment, tired squad, best player on sidelines etc.. but what you say is valid, Villa doesn't have that team look about it, yet... Edited January 7, 2019 by QldVilla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 1 hour ago, Demitri_C said: The thing is Hogan has flopped here. At Brentford he is a legend. It's like us not wanting benteke back, we would as he was excellent here. The fee is the real issue I think. Legend 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 41 minutes ago, AvfcRigo82 said: We really wouldn't. He's utter shit and he is finished. One season wonder. Hogan was ruined at Villa and don't thunk Brentford would take him now either. I don't think he is that bad at all. Yes he wasn't as he was but at this level I think and under a fan base that supports he can good again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 1 hour ago, Zatman said: Legend I'm trying to sell it to them...roll with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Personally don't think Kodjia would be able to fill the gap left by Abraham. He is a very different sort of player, doesn’t work as hard for the team and likes to do more on his own to create goals. In his first season here he was really the only player with a clue about scoring so ruled the roost. But I’m not so sure he would fit into Smith’s attacking formations too well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Tammy is also awesome for us when defending corners. Losing him will make another already weak area even weaker. I hate Wolves. Just leave the kid alone. You’re already comfortable midtable, sign him in the summer you ****s!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Sky are saying its Chelsea decision to terminate Tammy's loan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omariqy Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 3 hours ago, Stevo985 said: I think we'd need to sign someone else. But I also think people are underselling Kodjia's ability in the central role. He seems to be a bit of a forgotten man in that regard. I agree. People forget that Kodjia looked very good up top this season before Abraham came into the side. Brentford couldn't handle him. If we are looking to play the way Smith likes to play then Kodjia is much better at holding it up than Abraham. The issue is the pressing. Abraham does that much better. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazrim Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 45 minutes ago, Zatman said: Sky are saying its Chelsea decision to terminate Tammy's loan Wow. Some super-sleuth deduction there from SKY. Who would have thought the decision was down to the club that own him? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flynnchin84 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Seen on Twitter hes not turned up to training but could be a load of bull... anyone know otherwise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 4 minutes ago, Mazrim said: Wow. Some super-sleuth deduction there from SKY. Who would have thought the decision was down to the club that own him? Maybe but people on here seem to be keen to blame Tammy or Wolves for this happening Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TRO Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 3 hours ago, Demitri_C said: I don't think he is that bad at all. Yes he wasn't as he was but at this level I think and under a fan base that supports he can good again. There are many reasons why he has failed.....his movement is poor, thats why Klopp dumped him......conversely, Tammy is on the go constantly, thats why he makes goals for himself by that movement. chalk and cheese. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 1 hour ago, omariqy said: I agree. People forget that Kodjia looked very good up top this season before Abraham came into the side. Brentford couldn't handle him. If we are looking to play the way Smith likes to play then Kodjia is much better at holding it up than Abraham. The issue is the pressing. Abraham does that much better. Spot on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 38 minutes ago, Mazrim said: Wow. Some super-sleuth deduction there from SKY. Who would have thought the decision was down to the club that own him? Could have been TA Himself. I think Grabban did at sunderland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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