MotoMkali Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 El ghazi had some great moves but did look average for a while. Our team was likely anticipating a softer and less biased whistle. You could see that from el ghazi, mcginn and wesley. For me it was a free lick when el ghazi would have been clean through. He got knocked over from behind and when you are at full speed a little knock can send you over. Personally i would like to see him play with targett against worse teams before judging him. He skinned walker-Peters a couple times but lost the ball when sissoko or alderweirald stepped in. He definitely needs more support especially from the centre as he needs an option to lay it off to or at least draw defenders away from him when he cuts inside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 90 minutes of football is quite a short period to judge someone and write them out/in of the script. The whole midfield and forward line were ultimately pushed onto the backfoot, outmuscled and beaten for fitness. Lessons to learn for everyone, and ones that I am sure will be addressed. I don't see how you can pick out individuals from that performance. Probably worth returning to the inquest in about 10 matches when we see how individuals have responded to the challenge.. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 Goes down way too easily and seems to have the pain threshold of a three year old. If he's going to be a player he needs to toughen up and embrace the physical side of the game. If full backs know that they can rough him up he'll be totally ineffective in this league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 Writing a player off whom I know it's really talented based on one 90 minute performance isn't my bag. But he needs to step it up a notch. He allowed himself to be bullied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozvillafan Posted August 13, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted August 13, 2019 He wasn't the only one struggling to stay on his feet. We have a lot of players that haven't played in the PL before so he won't be the last, either. I suspect Anwar - like the rest of our new players - will be fine. They just need some time to adjust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
praisedmambo Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 I thought he did well. Genuinely. He looked threatening and as if he had some class about him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay.P.A Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 Baring in mind guys - Ref gave us ****-all most of the game. Only Grealish was winning free kicks. AEG was fouled legitimately a number of times and nothing was given to him. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, Jay.P.A said: AEG was fouled legitimately a number of times and nothing was given to him. The story of the boy who cried wolf springs to mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay.P.A Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, villa89 said: The story of the boy who cried wolf springs to mind. But you also talk a lot of rubbish. He had KWP on toast a few times, tracked back and won the ball a lot with Taylor down the left - so much so we nullified their attack down our left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenjiOgiwara Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 He was pretty average against very good opposition. Either way all players are allowed poor matches from time to time. Just have some faith in him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay.P.A Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 13 minutes ago, villa89 said: The story of the boy who cried wolf springs to mind. And effectively, you're saying the ref was spot on most of the game? LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 (edited) Inconsistent player. I'm amazed that people are still surprised by this. El Ghazi is a confidence player and i'm sure he will have a great spell when we are doing well, but will also have a fair amount of off days. Edited August 13, 2019 by villalad21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 (edited) 39 minutes ago, Jay.P.A said: And effectively, you're saying the ref was spot on most of the game? No what I'm saying is that El Ghazi falls over at the slightest touch and then rolls around like he's been shot. So even if he is getting legitimately fouled ref's are just going to assume he's diving again. If he toughened up a bit and did less diving he'd actually win more free kicks IMO. That's why I referenced the boy who cried wolf. Edited August 13, 2019 by villa89 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay.P.A Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, villa89 said: No what I'm saying is that El Ghazi falls over at the slightest touch and then rolls around like he's been shot. So even if he is getting legitimately fouled ref's are just going to assume he's diving again. If he toughened up a bit and did less diving he'd actually win more free kicks IMO. That's why I referenced the boy who cried wolf. You have to remember, he has extremely quick feet and is probably the fastest with the ball at feet. He could probably do better - but at the weekend he may have gone down a bit easy so we can could Conor whip in a decent free kick for us to attack. On the weekend though, he was legitimately fouled about 4 times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 A decent game against Bournemouth and suddenly some will remember that they do, after all, think he’s alright, I’m sure. We really aren't going to get 6/10 or above from him every week. Never got it from Tony Morley. Never got it from Ashley Young. He will have a few 2 or 3/10’s, quite a number of 4 and 5’s, then Win us half a dozen Points with some 7,8,9,:s ( All figures are approximations ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 4 minutes ago, Jay.P.A said: You have to remember, he has extremely quick feet and is probably the fastest with the ball at feet. He could probably do better - but at the weekend he may have gone down a bit easy so we can could Conor whip in a decent free kick for us to attack. On the weekend though, he was legitimately fouled about 4 times. Can you be legitimately fouled ? ( pedant with little to do today ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Jay.P.A said: And effectively, you're saying the ref was spot on most of the game? Personally don’t think the ref was bad. May have got the odd decision incorrect but who doesn’t. Certainly didn’t come away from the game thinking the ref had changed the outcome of the game 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 3 hours ago, KenjiOgiwara said: He was pretty average against very good opposition. Either way all players are allowed poor matches from time to time. Just have some faith in him. I love him. I'm definitely not having a pop at him. I expect more, I know he has more and I am sure we will get more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntrimBlack Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 I thought it was noticeable that so many of our players went down so easily. Among other things they do need to toughen up. Also don't sit on your arse and raise your hands to the heavens if you go down. Get up and get back in the game. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay.P.A Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 2 hours ago, mikeyp102 said: Personally don’t think the ref was bad. May have got the odd decision incorrect but who doesn’t. Certainly didn’t come away from the game thinking the ref had changed the outcome of the game Think you're in the minority there mate. He was shocking towards Villa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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