Pez1974 Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 24 minutes ago, MrBlack said: Similar amount of game time too, although AEGs figures are heavily helped by penalties. Either way, still says he's worth at least 20m..and probably even more. Not sure I'd sell though, don't know if the demamd is there for him at that valuation. Maybe only inside the PL. I think he's worth keeping and saving us the head ache of buying two wingers that will not be a gamble. Similar thoughts to me. Not convinced he'll ever become our first choice winger unless there's a raft of injuries, and to that end, if we got a big offer - £15m+, I really would be tempted to take it. Down to the coaches, I guess, who see him day in day out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedClaretAndBlue Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 Dropped from the Dutch squad. Shame, would have been nice to see him at the finals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 6 minutes ago, BleedClaretAndBlue said: Dropped from the Dutch squad. Shame, would have been nice to see him at the finals. I don't understand provisional squads. So you choose a load of players, give some false hope, then drop some a few days later? What is the basis of these squads usually? Why not just announce the squad you want from the get go? Especially as it's end of season and no one is playing to gauge form/receive injury further either. They will already know all about the players. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoMkali Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 3 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: I don't understand provisional squads. So you choose a load of players, give some false hope, then drop some a few days later? What is the basis of these squads usually? Why not just announce the squad you want from the get go? Especially as it's end of season and no one is playing to gauge form/receive injury further either. They will already know all about the players. It's about telling them. Not to book holidays and what not in case there is an injury. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaFaninLondon Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 Feel he deserved to get in. Never misses a pen (which is important if a game goes to pens) plus 10 goals in the best league in the world in about 1600 minutes for a winger is a very good season. Clearly he has his faults as a player but he deserved to go as a bench option particularly when players like Promes got in ahead of him (and even Ryan Babel up until recently). I still feel our players are overlooked internationally (e.g. Martinez still not capped for Argentina somehow) so I hope this will change as we become more of a force. Only a Man Ure player would get in coming off the back of a terrible season, even though I do think VDB is a very good player underneath it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulberto21 Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 On 23/05/2021 at 20:43, bobzy said: ALL WILL BE REVEALED...now: Bale - 83.9 mins/goal £85m Iheanacho - 121.5 £25m Willock - 122.5 youth Jota - 123.7 £40m Kane - 134.2 youth (high value) Cavani - 137.2 free (legend) Aguero - 139.8 £35m Salah - 140.1 £36.9m Lacazette - 148.5 £47.70m Gundogan - 156.2 £21m Lingard - 158.4 youth Pepe - 161.4 £72m El Ghazi - 161.7 £8m approx. Best of the rest for VIlla: Watkins - 237.8 Davis - 266 Traore - 334 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: I don't understand provisional squads. So you choose a load of players, give some false hope, then drop some a few days later? What is the basis of these squads usually? Why not just announce the squad you want from the get go? Especially as it's end of season and no one is playing to gauge form/receive injury further either. They will already know all about the players. Primarily applies to countries that have people playing in the Europa league or champs league. They can get the entire rest of the squad together and start building relationships/familiarity, and then if there are any injuries from those that would have joined up from the European final teams, the replacements are already there and up to speed. If there are no injuries then the replacements that would have been called in can be released to enjoy their summer. It makes sense. Presumably you don't want to leak those that are likely to be released assuming no injuries as it would have them in the wrong mindset. There is also the slim chance that one of them amazes during the training camp and forces a change of mind. Not sure why it never happened in the past, unless there is usually more time when a season hasn't been prolonged by covid factors. Edit: applies to England at least...not sure why they would then tell someone they're not needed before those games are played, but seems the Dutch are weird. Edited May 26, 2021 by MrBlack 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwi1890 Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 4 hours ago, Pez1974 said: Similar thoughts to me. Not convinced he'll ever become our first choice winger unless there's a raft of injuries, and to that end, if we got a big offer - £15m+, I really would be tempted to take it. Down to the coaches, I guess, who see him day in day out. £20m gets you a Brewster or Solanke , Anwar is twice as good as those 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam2003 Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 Sad for him to miss the Euros but then again not much over six months ago people were saying he would never play a PL game again so he’s certainly turned things around since last summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HongKongVillan Posted May 26, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted May 26, 2021 Hard luck on him hopefully he can get another chance. Was hoping he will join the Dutch squad at least for a training session but given our season only just finished it sounds like he was only there on paper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thug Posted May 26, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 26, 2021 1 hour ago, gwi1890 said: £20m gets you a Brewster or Solanke , Anwar is twice as good as those 2 Exactly this. 10 goals in the premier league and people happy to sell for £15m Didnt we pay that much for Hogan? We paid £9.5m for Nzogbia in 2011 after he scored 9 goals in a season for Wigan. 2011. That’s about £40m in today’s money 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 Wolves sold Costa and Cavaleiro last summer for £20m each that's £40m for the both of them, at that point Cavaleiro had scored three premier league goals and assisted 1, and Costa had scored on Premier League goal and provided two assists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villaphan04 Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 Wow. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoMkali Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 12 minutes ago, Villaphan04 said: Wow. So strange they wouldn't call him. Or inform him well before hand. We are going to name you in the provisional but aren't going to be first choice for the tournament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulberto21 Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 I hope they lose and miss all the penalties they get. Hopefully he continues scoring so he goes to the world cup instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aston_Villan4 Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Sulberto21 said: I hope they lose and miss all the penalties they get. Hopefully he continues scoring so he goes to the world cup instead. They're a mediocre side so I wouldn't be too surprised to see them exit early. I'm excited to see McGinn and the Scots (who had the best squad announcement) put a hurtin' on them come Wednesday. Edited May 27, 2021 by Aston_Villan4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterw Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 Its a shame that he didn't get picked...but.....and he got 10 goals.....but.......I find it hard to put my finger on what El Ghazi excels at other than penalties. Yet he's scored some pearlers, has played in the majority of games since Wolves away...and gives us decent balance. But he can't beat a player, his shooting is usually woeful, and doesnt' track back as much as he could and gets less stick for it than Traore. You'd think he's just a Championship plodder, but then het gets 10 goals in the prem (was it 10?) which is seriously good. I like El Ghazi as he is part of the team that came up and we all had the feel good factor together as a unit. But I think this is his ceiling. i wouldn't look to sell but if the right sized offer came in, I'd thank him and move him in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pez1974 Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 14 hours ago, gwi1890 said: £20m gets you a Brewster or Solanke , Anwar is twice as good as those 2 Ah. But Anwar isn't English, so the 'buying clubs are **** idiots' clause might not apply. And Bournemouth are skint, not. You point is valid, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 You know what, Anwar seems a very strong character. Hope this makes him determined to step up his game a notch. A consistent and determined Anwar would be some player! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante_Lockhart Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 Thats bad form letting him know by text. Be a man and ring him FFS. It's the least you could do. Still think he should be in though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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