John McGinn

[mjmooney]

13 minutes ago, SuperJohnMcGinn said:

Morning all,

I'm a Hibs season ticket holder so thought I'd join your forum to give you an insight in to John McGinn and what to expect if you manager to sign him which I sincerely hope you do.

John McGinn is probably the most loved Hibs player within the support and the club and has been since he joined 4 years ago. During this time we've seen him develop from a rough diamond with potential to a genuinely top quality midfielder who IMO should be Scotland's first choice midfielder right now.

John's biggest attribute is his spirit, you get these players every so often like your Gerrard's, Schole's etc that have the ability to lift a team and drive them on. John will bring that in abundance, if a game is going against you he will single handedly give everything he's got to drag the team back in to it through grit, determination and fight. On the flipside, if you're winning a game well John has the classy side of his game as well, excellent strength, ability to spray 50 yard passes with ease and a very decent turn of pace.

He also has a wicked left foot on him and the majority of his goals tend to come from drives from outside the box including two 25 yard strikes in a 2-2 draw at Celtic Park last season.

He will dominate the midfield in most games he plays and Scott Brown who's been the Celtic captain for 10 years said last season McGinn was the most difficult midfielder he's ever played against in Scotland.

 

The bigger the game, the bigger the performance you'll get from McGinn and he will never ever be accused of hiding.

 

In my opinion John McGinn will be an English premiership player within 2-3 years whether it be with Villa or another club.

From a Hibs fans perspective Villa would be a cracking move though.

 

Best of luck for the season ahead and hopefully you guys get promotion!

Thanks for that! As someone pointed out upthread, two of our finest ever players came from the Hibs academy - Alex Cropley and Des Bremner. If he's half as good as those two, he'll do nicely. Best of luck to your boys this season, and drop into VT whenever you like! 

[alreadyexists]

 

I feel for the Hibs fans though, as we know what it’s like.

Edited August 8, 2018 by alreadyexists

[fightoffyour]

38 minutes ago, alreadyexists said:

Some lovely long passing, crossing and some good pace and hustling on this:

 

 

 

 

 

He's already found a marauding Hutton on the right wing in the first clip of this video. That'll do for me.

[SuperJohnMcGinn]

It's also worth mentioning that there's another piece to this puzzle that could still affect the deal. Hibs are also after a former player of ours, Scott Allan, from Celtic and the talk throughout the summer is that we would get him back in any deal we make with Celtic for McGinn so if Celtic match Villa's offer then it gives Hibs a bigger headache. Overall the club would prefer him to go to Villa but know that we need Scott Allan and creating tension between us and Celtic would not bode well for future negotiations.

[Villan4Life]

1 minute ago, SuperJohnMcGinn said:

It's also worth mentioning that there's another piece to this puzzle that could still affect the deal. Hibs are also after a former player of ours, Scott Allan, from Celtic and the talk throughout the summer is that we would get him back in any deal we make with Celtic for McGinn so if Celtic match Villa's offer then it gives Hibs a bigger headache. Overall the club would prefer him to go to Villa but know that we need Scott Allan and creating tension between us and Celtic would not bode well for future negotiations.

Ah Scott Allan the Baggies reject also played number of time for clubs on loan down here including the unwashed. Never rated that guy myself i am sure you can find a lot better with the money for McGinn.

Edited August 8, 2018 by Villan4Life

[PompeyVillan]

22 minutes ago, SuperJohnMcGinn said:

Morning all,

I'm a Hibs season ticket holder so thought I'd join your forum to give you an insight in to John McGinn and what to expect if you manager to sign him which I sincerely hope you do.

John McGinn is probably the most loved Hibs player within the support and the club and has been since he joined 4 years ago. During this time we've seen him develop from a rough diamond with potential to a genuinely top quality midfielder who IMO should be Scotland's first choice midfielder right now.

John's biggest attribute is his spirit, you get these players every so often like your Gerrard's, Schole's etc that have the ability to lift a team and drive them on. John will bring that in abundance, if a game is going against you he will single handedly give everything he's got to drag the team back in to it through grit, determination and fight. On the flipside, if you're winning a game well John has the classy side of his game as well, excellent strength, ability to spray 50 yard passes with ease and a very decent turn of pace.

He also has a wicked left foot on him and the majority of his goals tend to come from drives from outside the box including two 25 yard strikes in a 2-2 draw at Celtic Park last season.

He will dominate the midfield in most games he plays and Scott Brown who's been the Celtic captain for 10 years said last season McGinn was the most difficult midfielder he's ever played against in Scotland.

 

The bigger the game, the bigger the performance you'll get from McGinn and he will never ever be accused of hiding.

 

In my opinion John McGinn will be an English premiership player within 2-3 years whether it be with Villa or another club.

From a Hibs fans perspective Villa would be a cracking move though.

 

Best of luck for the season ahead and hopefully you guys get promotion!

Thanks chap. We've got another Scottish chap with that sort of spirit, Sir Alan of Huttonshire. If wee John has just a bit of what Sir Alan does, we're onto a winner. 

We'll look after him. 

[SuperJohnMcGinn]

6 minutes ago, mjmooney said:

Thanks for that! As someone pointed out upthread, two of our finest ever players came from the Hibs academy - Alex Cropley and Des Bremner. If he's half as good as those two, he'll do nicely. Best of luck to your boys this season, and drop into VT whenever you like! 

Cheers buddy! Was actually down at Villa Park for a Premiership game v Man United in the home end about 8-9 years ago now I reckon, Villa went 2-0 up via Ashley Young and Mark Albrighton then United unfortunately got two late goals back. Cracking atmosphere and a beautiful stadium though, was made to feel really welcome by the Villa faithful!

[SuperJohnMcGinn]

3 minutes ago, Villan4Life said:

Ah Scott Allan the Baggies reject also played number of time for clubs on loan down here including the unwashed. Never rated that guy myself i am sure you can find a lot better with the money for McGinn.

Yep, that's him, Allan is a very strange one, literally failed at every club he's went too apart from Hibs, just one of these players that suits certain clubs.

[SuperJohnMcGinn]

3 minutes ago, PompeyVillan said:

Thanks chap. We've got another Scottish chap with that sort of spirit, Sir Alan of Huttonshire. If wee John has just a bit of what Sir Alan does, we're onto a winner. 

We'll look after him. 

You'll grow to love him very quickly and he probably has more about him than Hutton ever did to be honest although I have rated Hutton quite highly. Anything under £5 million is a steal for McGinn.

[Villan4Life]

1 minute ago, SuperJohnMcGinn said:

Yep, that's him, Allan is a very strange one, literally failed at every club he's went too apart from Hibs, just one of these players that suits certain clubs.

Yep, i'm sure you could get him on a pre-contract in Jan as he is out of contract next summer isn't he? In my view mate plenty of much better midfielders around than Allan probably on less wages that you could bring to your club but obviously Allan has done it for you guys before.

Good luck for the season.

Edited August 8, 2018 by Villan4Life

[Wainy316]

4 minutes ago, SuperJohnMcGinn said:

Cheers buddy! Was actually down at Villa Park for a Premiership game v Man United in the home end about 8-9 years ago now I reckon, Villa went 2-0 up via Ashley Young and Mark Albrighton then United unfortunately got two late goals back. Cracking atmosphere and a beautiful stadium though, was made to feel really welcome by the Villa faithful!

Argh that game!  Although better than the one a year or two later where we went 2 up and United got 3 late goals.

Haven't beat the bastards at home since 1995.

[Stevo985]

1 hour ago, lapal_fan said:

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[PompeyVillan]

So how does McGinn fit in then? He seems like a traditional center mid, could he be the 'holding' player to give Whelan a bit of a breather? Or competition for Hourihane. 

He doesn't seem like a replacement for Grealish to me. 

[Zatman]

4 minutes ago, Wainy316 said:

Argh that game!  Although better than the one a year or two later where we went 2 up and United got 3 late goals.

Haven't beat the bastards at home since 1995.

We let a 2 goal lead a few times vs them. Fa cup game as well was horrible 

[Wainy316]

Just now, Zatman said:

We let a 2 goal lead a few times vs them. Fa cup game as well was horrible 

Yep and we've blown countless 1 goal leads against them too.

I will always despise Manchester United with every fibre of my being.  Completely ruined my childhood.

[Hibsfan]

Just now, alreadyexists said:

Reading Twitter some people are amazed we’ve got him for £4m (possibly rising to £6m with promotion apparently)! Makes a change for us to be the ones getting a bargain.

I feel for the Hibs fans in a way though, as we know what it’s like.

Don't feel too bad for us,  we knew he was away as our business model now is to try and buy young and sell for a profit to reinvest in the team,  he was out of contract next summer so we really need to sell this summer and i think nearly all Hibs fans will be delighted he's got a good move to you guys instead of going along the road to Celtic.

In terms of the player you will be getting,  i think the Hibs fan a few posts above covered it quite well however i will chuck my tuppence worth in as well.

He's one of the last of a dying breed of genuine box to box midfielders,  midfielders now tend to be pigeon hold into defensive or attacking,   I think you'd be hard pushed to tie him down to one role within the midfield although as he moves up levels that discipline may be something he needs to work on.  He could do with working on getting more goals from midfield,  there have been indications that may be coming but if i had one criticism of him that would probably be it.   In our recent European game we were two down at half time,  had it not been for John we would have lost that game comfortably IMO.  Within the first few minutes of the second half he'd clattered one of there players,  won the ball and was a driving force in a match i don't think i'd ever seen before from a Hibs player.  He really set the tempo for that second half performance and that's the kind of player he is,  he's capable of grabbing a game by the scruff of the neck and driving his team mates forward with him.

Something that maybe hasn't been covered too much is what he can bring to your club off the park.  He joined us at a pretty low time in the clubs history but he has been a key figure in improving relations between the players and the fans.  He's just a real likeable character that always does a lot to represent the club in a good light.  Anyone that has kids will probably find he'll be there favourite player within a few months as he really tries to engage with the club and the younger fans will really take to him,  i've no doubt about that.

One last thing i'd comment on is that there is bound to be some scepticism coming from Scotland,  IMO our league is on the up and there is a hell of a lot of good players coming from the so called provincial clubs now.  Within the last week we've put out a Greek side in Europe, Aberdeen ran Burnley very close,  Rangers (who finished 3rd last season) put out there Croatian equivalent and Celtic beat a Norwegian side.  I doubt many would grudge spending the money you will be on a Greek, Croatian, English premier league player or a Norwegian so there shouldn't really be too many concerns about where he's coming from.

Anyway,  starting to waffle now so I'll leave it at that,   All the best for the new season,  there's no doubt i and many other Hibs fans will be adopting Villa as our English side for the coming season so hopefully you get back in the Premier League.

 

[Khizzy]

Avfctransfers on Twitter is saying that McGinn is complete. Not sure if he means medical or has actually signed. 

[stewiek2]

Sounds like my type of midfielder. A Platt, Taylor, Viera, Petit type. Always baffled me why Arsenal stopped playing with that type of midfield. They've been weak in that area since adopting the tippy tappy lightweight midfield.

[SuperJohnMcGinn]

9 minutes ago, PompeyVillan said:

So how does McGinn fit in then? He seems like a traditional center mid, could he be the 'holding' player to give Whelan a bit of a breather? Or competition for Hourihane. 

He doesn't seem like a replacement for Grealish to me. 

He it a typical all action midfielder who can do the dirty side but also the free flowing attack side. He is used to playing in an interchangeable midfield three generally in the more attacking position. He could fit in to a CDM role but it would stifle him as a player and stop him making the impact he can on games.

[alreadyexists]

7 minutes ago, Hibsfan said:

Don't feel too bad for us,  we knew he was away as our business model now is to try and buy young and sell for a profit to reinvest in the team,  he was out of contract next summer so we really need to sell this summer and i think nearly all Hibs fans will be delighted he's got a good move to you guys instead of going along the road to Celtic.

In terms of the player you will be getting,  i think the Hibs fan a few posts above covered it quite well however i will chuck my tuppence worth in as well.

He's one of the last of a dying breed of genuine box to box midfielders,  midfielders now tend to be pigeon hold into defensive or attacking,   I think you'd be hard pushed to tie him down to one role within the midfield although as he moves up levels that discipline may be something he needs to work on.  He could do with working on getting more goals from midfield,  there have been indications that may be coming but if i had one criticism of him that would probably be it.   In our recent European game we were two down at half time,  had it not been for John we would have lost that game comfortably IMO.  Within the first few minutes of the second half he'd clattered one of there players,  won the ball and was a driving force in a match i don't think i'd ever seen before from a Hibs player.  He really set the tempo for that second half performance and that's the kind of player he is,  he's capable of grabbing a game by the scruff of the neck and driving his team mates forward with him.

Something that maybe hasn't been covered too much is what he can bring to your club off the park.  He joined us at a pretty low time in the clubs history but he has been a key figure in improving relations between the players and the fans.  He's just a real likeable character that always does a lot to represent the club in a good light.  Anyone that has kids will probably find he'll be there favourite player within a few months as he really tries to engage with the club and the younger fans will really take to him,  i've no doubt about that.

One last thing i'd comment on is that there is bound to be some scepticism coming from Scotland,  IMO our league is on the up and there is a hell of a lot of good players coming from the so called provincial clubs now.  Within the last week we've put out a Greek side in Europe, Aberdeen ran Burnley very close,  Rangers (who finished 3rd last season) put out there Croatian equivalent and Celtic beat a Norwegian side.  I doubt many would grudge spending the money you will be on a Greek, Croatian, English premier league player or a Norwegian so there shouldn't really be too many concerns about where he's coming from.

Anyway,  starting to waffle now so I'll leave it at that,   All the best for the new season,  there's no doubt i and many other Hibs fans will be adopting Villa as our English side for the coming season so hopefully you get back in the Premier League.

 

One of my favourite things is when other fans come to VT and have a chat about players.

Thanks for this, and @Super John McGinn for the info.

What a lovely bunch the Hibs fans are