Popular Post Mazrim Posted May 19, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 19, 2022 I really, really hope we're not offering him a new contract. I also really, really hope somebody believes the mystifying hype and we mug them off for a big fee. I just want to see a team sheet he isn't guaranteed to be on again. I want to see a player in our midfield in his place who is really good at something, instead of average at everything. So for instance: Kamara, Bissouma, Ramsey, Buendia and Coutinho. With Chukwuemeka, Luiz, Iroegbunam, Bailey and JPB offering competition / rotation. 7 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted May 19, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted May 19, 2022 (edited) 12 hours ago, Pissflaps said: Why would Tottenham want him. They already have at least 4 better midfielders already Maybe because others, in this case top quality professional football managers, think he's a lot better than the average punter on Villatalk does? Edited May 19, 2022 by sidcow 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 14 minutes ago, sidcow said: Maybe because others, in this case top quality professional football managers, think he's a lot netter better than the average punter on Villatalk does? The same lot who judge players based on 1 performance, Managers on 1/4 seasons, and boards on singular moves? The same lot who convinced us Bentacur was shite, surely not? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWARLEY2 Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 In a slightly more defensive role than Ramsey on the right hand side cutting in makes no sense to me. Look what happened for the 3rd goal against Burnley . Gets the ball on his stronger side , further up the field and puts in a gorgeous cross. It is what he is strong at. He is another moments player. Doesnt run a game because he doesnt have the passing skill or patience . But he is capable of exceptional moments in a game 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazrim Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 46 minutes ago, sidcow said: Maybe because others, in this case top quality professional football managers, think he's a lot netter better than the average punter on Villatalk does? What would you say, besides hilarious japery, are McGinns strengths? I think he's best as an attacking midfielder for a team that don't expect top level productivity from that position. Because he'll put a lovely ball in or score a banger once in a blue moon, but too slow to cover the 8 or 6 position, and his passing is erratic all too often. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted May 19, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted May 19, 2022 Just now, Mazrim said: What would you say, besides hilarious japery, are McGinns strengths? I think he's best as an attacking midfielder for a team that don't expect top level productivity from that position. Because he'll put a lovely ball in or score a banger once in a blue moon, but too slow to cover the 8 or 6 position, and his passing is erratic all too often. My opinion is irrelevant here. If Conte is going to put a big bid in for him with the "4 better midfielders he has already" then Conte obviously think's he's got strengths others on here aren't seeing or appreciating. Or maybe the Tottenham changing room really does need £50m of hilarious japery. I mean I can't see Kane being a barrel of laughs. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 McGinn plays so deep because we have much better attacking midfielders than him. He doesn't have the attributes to enjoy consistent success as an attacking midfielder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 13 hours ago, Pissflaps said: Why would Tottenham want him. They already have at least 4 better midfielders already Don't believe everything you read Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 I think Curtis Jones is the better player 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazrim Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 19 minutes ago, Tom13 said: McGinn plays so deep because we have much better attacking midfielders than him. He doesn't have the attributes to enjoy consistent success as an attacking midfielder. Agreed. And better 6s and 8s. Hence its time to move on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lochheads twin Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 55 minutes ago, MWARLEY2 said: In a slightly more defensive role than Ramsey on the right hand side cutting in makes no sense to me. Look what happened for the 3rd goal against Burnley . Gets the ball on his stronger side , further up the field and puts in a gorgeous cross. It is what he is strong at. He is another moments player. Doesnt run a game because he doesnt have the passing skill or patience . But he is capable of exceptional moments in a game Agreed. Until we resolve the defensive midfield spot(s?) in our team we will not see the best of SJM. This season he has played a role for the team rather that one that he is strongest at. The comparison to his Scotland performances and how Villa deploy him is night and day! I think we have a good player, hence the links to Spurs & United, a battler in tough times and someone who would be a very positive influence in the dressing room. Can’t think off too many squads who would not benefit from a John McGinn. UTV 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steero113 Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, Tom13 said: McGinn plays so deep because we have much better attacking midfielders than him. He doesn't have the attributes to enjoy consistent success as an attacking midfielder. 12 goals and 5 assists in 23 internationals playing as an attacking mid suggests you're bang wrong. Edited May 19, 2022 by Steero113 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Steero113 said: 12 goals and 5 assists in 23 internationals playing as an attacking mid suggests you're bang wrong. Scotland don't play like we do, do they? And what level of opposition are those numbers against? Are you seriously telling me you'd rather have McGinn starting over any of our other AMs/wingers? Edited May 19, 2022 by Tom13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steero113 Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 54 minutes ago, Tom13 said: Scotland don't play like we do, do they? And what level of opposition are those numbers against? Are you seriously telling me you'd rather have McGinn starting over any of our other AMs/wingers? Not as a winger no of course not. As an AM we've never tried him (Scotland have) and I would be open to him being one of a choice of 4 options for that position over having him as an 8 or a 6 for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 Just now, Steero113 said: Not as a winger no of course not. As an AM we've never tried him (Scotland have) and I would be open to him being one of a choice of 4 options for that position over having him as an 8 or a 6 for sure. Its where he plays for Scotland and won their player of the year It is weird we've never at least tried it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steero113 Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 (edited) 1 minute ago, villa4europe said: Its where he plays for Scotland and won their player of the year It is weird we've never at least tried it My options for next season would be Buendia, Coutinho, McGinn and Chukwuemeka. EDIT: If we are playing with two 10's.... Edited May 19, 2022 by Steero113 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 FWIW I agree with Buendia and Coutinho we do have 2 better 10s imo but mcginn has been here for 4 years now, at least 2 of them we were screaming out for a 10 to play off grealish and from my memory we've never played him there And the question vs what level - Scotlands last 3 games in which he played as a 10 was vs Austria, Poland and Denmark so the level is fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerCollins29 Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 9 hours ago, Mazrim said: I really, really hope we're not offering him a new contract. I also really, really hope somebody believes the mystifying hype and we mug them off for a big fee. I just want to see a team sheet he isn't guaranteed to be on again. I want to see a player in our midfield in his place who is really good at something, instead of average at everything. So for instance: Kamara, Bissouma, Ramsey, Buendia and Coutinho. With Chukwuemeka, Luiz, Iroegbunam, Bailey and JPB offering competition / rotation. You watched his performance tonight?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DCJonah Posted May 19, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 19, 2022 He was tremendous tonight. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supermon Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 (edited) Yeah played well tonight Edited May 19, 2022 by supermon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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