sne Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 When I saw it yesterday I thought it was a cheekbone fracture or something like that rather than a concussion but if it was a concussion he should have been taken off asap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post a m ole Posted September 19, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 19, 2021 9 hours ago, Villaphan04 said: could clearly see him taking something during treatment after the first corner. I don't understand why we just didn't take him off after that. Not a fan of taking chances with concussions.. Assuming that Young or Nakamba will draw in next weekend because no way should/(will) he be available Smith said that it was a second knock that made him feel dizzy later on, not the first one he was treated for which did just look like a cheekbone injury. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightoffyour Posted September 19, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted September 19, 2021 I thought a concussion sub could only be made if all 3 normal subs had already been used, but evidently not. Hope he’s okay anyway, an in-form SJM is a great asset to have. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osmark86 Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 1 minute ago, fightoffyour said: I thought a concussion sub could only be made if all 3 normal subs had already been used, but evidently not. Hope he’s okay anyway, an in-form SJM is a great asset to have. Would have been an odd way of designing the rule. A concussion just happens and isn't related to the number of subs having been made prior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 I’d imagine he had to have at least 7 days non action after concussion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightoffyour Posted September 19, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted September 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, osmark86 said: Would have been an odd way of designing the rule. A concussion just happens and isn't related to the number of subs having been made prior. Yes but in that case there could have been a situation like “well we don’t have any more subs to use and you seem ok so just carry on” rather than taking them off as a precaution. Good to learn the actual rule though, it does make more sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dont_do_it_doug. Posted September 19, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 19, 2021 (edited) He must have presented fine after the first knock. Concussion isn’t like breaking a leg, it can take some time to show itself. Labelling the medical staff as a disgrace when you’ve absolutely no idea what the circumstances were is ludicrous. This desire to remove all risk from contact sport is also completely unrealistic. Edited September 19, 2021 by dont_do_it_doug. 19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 Yeah I think it got worse the longer he stayed on. Adrenaline will have probably took him through 10 mins and he really started to fade, looked like he was going to stack it more than usual. No blame needed, but the management and medical team need to make sure they're happy with their processes. It's no good for the player and it's no good for the team if we've got someone giving away corners because they're loopy. Played some lovely passes while he was on. Lost a few sloppy balls, but being positive I don't think he was right in the heed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 15 hours ago, birdman said: He was in the wars today so credit to Super John. I saw him pop two painkillers on the pitch after the clash so was obviously a nasty one. Pretty sure he actually missed his mouth with one which was a sign 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 for me, to fit Ings, Watkins, Bailey and Buendia in the team, which we 100% should, that leaves Ramsey, Luiz and McGinn competing for the final 2 slots. Personally, i think McGinn misses out currently, im not saying he's a bad player before people jump on me, but i also dont think he isnt showing as much in terms of ball retention, control and passing etc, as Ramsey and Luiz., you cant knock McGinns work etgic, but he is quite poor at control, ball retention and finding those intricate passes to maintain possession etc. However, i think Deano does have a bit of a blind spot for McGinn regardless of what he does, so i have no doubt he will still be one of the first name son the team sheet regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulberto21 Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 Took 3 big hits yesterday I sincerely hope he's ok and his bravery isn't allowed to rush him back. Played ok despite being concussed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WallisFrizz Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 This is from 2016 but presumably rules haven’t relaxed since then, means he’ll be out for Chelsea at least: If they have a head injury how long does it take for them to come back? The FA and Premier League have set out clear 'return to play' guidelines for players who are suspected to have suffered concussion. Essentially, no player will be allowed to return for a competitive game for at least six days. There is no blood test or scan which can diagnose concussion. Diagnosis is made on the basis of history and examination. The guidelines work on a step-by-step basis, with a player only allowed to progress a step every 24 hours - although this process can often take longer. The steps are: No physical activity, light aerobic exercise, sport specific exercise, non-contact training drills, full contact training, return to play (after an all-clear from the club's medical officer). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Silvers Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A'Villan Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 That pass. Stellar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZL- Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 Has performed well this season but if I'm completely honest I don't think we missed McGinn when he went off on Saturday. Whilst I do see his blood and thunder advanced role being very effective in setting the tone for our midfield especially against teams who will seek to dominate the ball. However a common theme that was very evident in the first half of vs Everton was our lack of composure in the final third (which Dean has named checked as an area we were looking to improve) and I think a big reason for that is McGinn's low pass %, I know he tries ambitious balls but I think in games which we are dictating more of the play simply he does not have the composure in the final third to be effective as our furthest forward midfield (and with Ings and Watkins covering more of the defenders, efficiency in the final third from midfields gonna be increasingly important). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Silvers Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 One of the greats, what a shot 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woody1000 Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 35 minutes ago, Phil Silvers said: One of the greats, what a shot Only 3 years? In a lot of ways it feels like a lifetime ago! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Silvers Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 27 minutes ago, Woody1000 said: Only 3 years? In a lot of ways it feels like a lifetime ago! I know, unreal how time flys these days. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Woody1000 said: Only 3 years? In a lot of ways it feels like a lifetime ago! There was me thinking...was that really 3 years ago? Feels less than 2! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YLN Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 2 hours ago, Phil Silvers said: I know, unreal how time flys these days. Are you suggesting that time passes more quickly than 1 second per second these days? This is huge. Concerning if true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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