supermon Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 His distribution is woeful, I have no idea what his brain is thinking when he tries some of his ridiculous over the top passes. He fails more than he connects. He needs to be a squad player next year and shouldn't be starting as many games. Let's hope we can find a replacement in the summer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vreitti Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 Well if McGinn is demoted to a squad player next season, we're gonna have one helluva squad. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 Maybe he is being played in the wrong end of midfield. Play him where he used to play in midfield as a more attacking threat rather than a defensive type, I think we would see a big improvement imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozvillafan Posted April 11, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted April 11, 2021 6 hours ago, AvfcRigo82 said: Maybe he is being played in the wrong end of midfield. Play him where he used to play in midfield as a more attacking threat rather than a defensive type, I think we would see a big improvement imo. ... I thought that was where he played against Liverpool? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommo_b Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 7 hours ago, AvfcRigo82 said: Maybe he is being played in the wrong end of midfield. Play him where he used to play in midfield as a more attacking threat rather than a defensive type, I think we would see a big improvement imo. I can’t tell if this is sarcastic or not? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedClaretAndBlue Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 John McGinn is exactly the type of player you want to change/protect a game coming off the bench. He would benefit having someone seriously putting his starting berth under threat because of the character he is. He’s a battleaxe and a fighter who would raise his levels in that scenario I feel. Hopefully we are in a position next season where this could happen. We all love him and want him to succeed, which he has to a large extent during his time at Villa, but there’s nothing wrong with wanting to push to get more from him. 1 deflected goal all season has been disappointing. 2 if that one at Arsenal counted. Ill always back him but Smith cant be afraid to replace him if he’s not playing well. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhan_Zhuang Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, BleedClaretAndBlue said: John McGinn is exactly the type of player you want to change/protect a game coming off the bench. He would benefit having someone seriously putting his starting berth under threat because of the character he is. He’s a battleaxe and a fighter who would raise his levels in that scenario I feel. Hopefully we are in a position next season where this could happen. We all love him and want him to succeed, which he has to a large extent during his time at Villa, but there’s nothing wrong with wanting to push to get more from him. 1 deflected goal all season has been disappointing. 2 if that one at Arsenal counted. Ill always back him but Smith cant be afraid to replace him if he’s not playing well. McGinn isn't going to protect the game though, he'd just give the ball away and invite pressure. He's a liability. Edited April 11, 2021 by Zhan_Zhuang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risso Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 A good measure of progress for us will be if McGinn is mainly a sub next season. He's not good enough for a top half of the Premier League team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted April 11, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted April 11, 2021 (edited) I don't know what's happened to him. The ball used to stick to him like glue, he'd stick that arse out and no one could get near him. Now he's robbed all the time. Sussed out by better quality players than he's played against before? The arse is dead. Edited April 11, 2021 by sidcow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 5 minutes ago, sidcow said: I don't know what's happened to him. The ball used to stick to him like glue, he'd stick that arse out and no one could get near him. Now he's robbed all the time. Sussed out by better quality players than he's played against be for? The arse is dead. The meatball turned into the doughball. He has all the agility of a brick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 He seemingly continues to waste good opportunities by trying that ball over the top (which feels like it always fails), instead of playing a couple of simple passes to open a defence up that way, and it's so frustrating to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 4 hours ago, BleedClaretAndBlue said: John McGinn is exactly the type of player you want to change/protect a game coming off the bench. He would benefit having someone seriously putting his starting berth under threat because of the character he is. He’s a battleaxe and a fighter who would raise his levels in that scenario I feel. Hopefully we are in a position next season where this could happen. We all love him and want him to succeed, which he has to a large extent during his time at Villa, but there’s nothing wrong with wanting to push to get more from him. 1 deflected goal all season has been disappointing. 2 if that one at Arsenal counted. Ill always back him but Smith cant be afraid to replace him if he’s not playing well. I agree with your point. I couldn't tell you how many games he's come off the bench for us, can't be many. I do remember at Blues in the Jack game though, he was brilliant coming on. He's not playing well at all but I can't see us getting to a position by the start of next season where he's regularly on the bench. Makes himself an easier target than others by not hiding and trying to make things happen constantly. I don't think he's ever got over that big ankle injury from December 2019. He's played like SJM can less than five times since he's come back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuwabatake Sanjuro Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 Very witty from John but he should be sleeping at this hour of the night, training in the morning I presume. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 7 hours ago, Kuwabatake Sanjuro said: Very witty from John but he should be sleeping at this hour of the night, training in the morning I presume. Been stated by Dean that players don't start training until 10am (I think, possibly even later). Mentioned it was due to current lifestyles of the yoof of today, and that in fact training later aligns better with when you tend to play football matches anyway so hardly an issue. It's like their body clocks are shifted a couple of hours from 9-5 folks... and why shouldn't it be when they don't work 9-5? Still not a sure I'm a fan. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 You beauty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M_Afro Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Does he know that we are in claret? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Horrendous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Peaked at 20 seconds in. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M_Afro Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 He is a big problem for us. He is one of Dean’s favourite players and I don’t see that changing but he is way from good enough on his current form. Awful without the ball much worse with it. He looks so out of condition too. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 We haven't had the ball in 20 minutes. Mcginn receives the ball. I'm a ping this **** 90 yards. Moron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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