Jump to content
PompeyVillan

John McGinn

Recommended Posts

6 minutes ago, TheStagMan said:

The start of the season he was damned good. Then he started struggling with a knock that later required surgery. I am prepared to accept that as a reason for the drop in performance and expect him to come back firing. I am not going to criticise a Villa player who was playing through an injury as shit.

If he comes back and does not perform by the end of the season, then fair enough. At this point, some of the criticism he is getting is laughable.

Nobody is asking you to criticise him but I'm not sure it's been confirmed that he was playing through an injury or not. 

Regardless, I don't think any reasonable posters have called him 'shit', just expressed doubts about his performances this season - which you've acknowledged yourself as not being up to his usual standard. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
9 minutes ago, TheStagMan said:

The start of the season he was damned good. Then he started struggling with a knock that later required surgery. I am prepared to accept that as a reason for the drop in performance and expect him to come back firing. I am not going to criticise a Villa player who was playing through an injury as shit.

If he comes back and does not perform by the end of the season, then fair enough. At this point, some of the criticism he is getting is laughable.

What criticism has been 'laughable'?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

He has not had a particularly good season thus far, anyone with a functioning set of eyes and brain can see that. I know it's sacrilege for some to suggest this but it's absolutely the reality. He started quite well and pretty much nosedived form wise after the Burnley home game. 

The 'struggling with injury' theory has not been proven at all. It was more of a case of him struggling with the pace and struggling with his own fitness. His fitness is not up to par.

He has not taken to this level particularly well given he was such a key and standout player for us last season, end of story. 

Edited by Dr_Pangloss
  • Like 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
30 minutes ago, Dr_Pangloss said:

He has not had a particularly good season thus far, anyone with a functioning set of eyes and brain can see that. I know it's sacrilege for some to suggest this but it's absolutely the reality. He started quite well and pretty much nosedived form wise after the Burnley home game. 

The 'struggling with injury' theory has not been proven at all. It was more of a case of him struggling with the pace and struggling with his own fitness. His fitness is not up to par.

He has not taken to this level particularly well given he was such a key and standout player for us last season, end of story. 

Oh, OK then. Entirely his fault. What do you suggest?

End of story? Best get rid then. Wonder if we can get our £3m back.

John McGinn's fitness not up to par. I have heard it all now. :crylaugh:

Edited by TheStagMan
  • Like 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Just now, TheStagMan said:

Oh, OK then. Entirely his fault. What do you suggest?

End of story? Best get rid then. Wonder if we can get our £3m back.

How you can jump to that conclusion from my post is a startling piece of incomprehension. 

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Just now, Dr_Pangloss said:

How you can jump to that conclusion from my post is a startling piece of incomprehension. 

So, what do you suggest? You said he is not up to it, and then added "end of story" so clearly that must be it.

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

6 minutes ago, TheStagMan said:

Oh, OK then. Entirely his fault. What do you suggest?

End of story? Best get rid then. Wonder if we can get our £3m back.

John McGinn's fitness not up to par. I have heard it all now. :crylaugh:

This honestly reads like you're hyperventilating. 

Nobody is saying we should sell him. Relax. 

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
3 minutes ago, TheStagMan said:

So, what do you suggest? You said he is not up to it, and then added "end of story" so clearly that must be it.

 

I'm suggesting, as is crystal clear from my post, that he hasn't taken to this level that well, that he has quality and fitness issues that he needs to iron out and improve on. I'm suggesting nothing more or nothing less than this. The fact that you jump to the idea that I'm saying he should be sold is completely down to your total lack of comprehension. 

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

While he hasnt been great we still miss his presence and his energy in the midfield of the park plus his goal threat. An off form McGinn offers more in midfield than Luiz or Hourihane

  • Like 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
4 minutes ago, Stevo985 said:

That he has failed to step up to this level.

 

He stepped up to this level faster than anyone else in the squad and then his form dipped.

It was a strange drop in form as he looked so good. Seemed like one of those where we later learn he had some kind of personal or off the field issue. Anyone know if he’s got some off the pitch problems?
 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

It was clear before McGinn’s injury that he needed a rest but as another poster pointed out, an under power McGinn is still better than what Villa currently have in midfield.

I’m in no doubt therefore that when McGinn comes back again after a rest he will be firing on all cylinders.

Villa have missed him.

Edited by striker
  • Like 3

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

He has been massively missed. Crazy to suggest otherwise in my opinion.

Edited by Vive_La_Villa
  • Like 3

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Given the recent performances of our other midfielders I think it's laughable to suggest he'd have had no impact if we still had him.

He did seem to need a rest though.

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, Skruff said:

Any idea for how long he's out? March? 

Media said he should be back for Euro 2020 playoffs so will have be few weeks before then I imagine

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

It's the same as Mings for me. They may not have been as good as at start of the season in their games before the respective injuries but you take both out of the team and it dosen't half impact on the rest of the side.

  • Like 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites


×
×
  • Create New...
Â