lexicon Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 3 minutes ago, Laughable Chimp said: Tbf, you could make a similar argument for most of our midfield right now. I think of all of them, we expect more from him. I know he's bedding in to the league somewhat, but he knows British football and he knows the team - he doesn't have as many excuses as a lot of the others IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted December 10, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted December 10, 2019 Hourihane in for him against Sheffield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedClaretAndBlue Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 He definitely settled to life in the Prem quickly. Thought he was as brilliant as he was in the championship early on in the season so he’s definitely good enough at this level. The Burnley game at home he was unreal. Dean has a few decisions to make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 40 minutes ago, Laughable Chimp said: Tbf, you could make a similar argument for most of our midfield right now. I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 I think he has simply lost form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughable Chimp Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 (edited) Here's the thing about Mcginn. Despite the amount of complaints he's been getting in here, both he's whoscored ratings and and infogol ratings are generally decent, higher than our other midfielders. On understat, every single one of his attacking statistics are higher than the premier league average for a premier league midfielder. What I'm getting at is, these stats suggest that while he may be off form, he's still contributing to the team in some way and is still our best midfielder on the pitch, which is probably why Dean doesn't want to drop him. Between Nakamba, Hourihane, Luiz and Mcginn, we typically play 3 of them on the field at one time and so we only have a single rotation option. In general, the priority is to rotate someone else from the midfield trio for the rotation option because at least one of them have been crap usually, which leaves nobody but Lansbury to sub for Mcginn and I'm not sure Smith is confident enough to start Lansbury, especially considering how light-weight our midfield generally is. The other option is to sub in one of the wingers for Mcginn and move Grealish to a central position but as we've seen, that just hampers Grealish. Edited December 10, 2019 by Laughable Chimp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 Ndidi was the first player I've seen stick him on his arse more than once. Read him and overpowered him. I'd like to rest John at Sheff U, just because I want him in the team and firing v Saints. Three points v Southampton will do us more good than 3 at Bramall Lane. I think everyone will see how much we miss him if he doesn't start. His level seems lower than it really is because this is John McGinn, not some waster. Being dropped might stick a rocket up him as well, something needs to spark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 Just keep playing him until his legs fall off. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 Poor, very poor, doesn't look like a player who belongs at this level at the moment. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbcuk Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 (edited) Was he even playing today? Edited December 14, 2019 by rbcuk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 17 minutes ago, Dr_Pangloss said: Poor, very poor, doesn't look like a player who belongs at this level at the moment. He's not showing for the ball, he's not tracking back enough or offering an attacking threat. There's something very wrong with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 On 08/12/2019 at 17:18, Avcol said: Beyond the work rate, such a limited player in this league Fully agree, even in Championship was some games when Jack waa injured that he was dire. Needs to adapt his game which he has the tools to do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 10 minutes ago, lexicon said: He's not showing for the ball, he's not tracking back enough or offering an attacking threat. There's something very wrong with him. I think his fitness is poor and that underpins a lot of it, but certainly open to the idea that he's just actually not that good of a player in the first place. His quality on the ball is really bad at the best of times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thabucks Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 A big offer from Man Utd looks awfully tempting right now sad to say .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andym Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 35 minutes ago, Dr_Pangloss said: I think his fitness is poor and that underpins a lot of it, but certainly open to the idea that he's just actually not that good of a player in the first place. His quality on the ball is really bad at the best of times. Said it before, his game is based on outworking his opposite number and having a good shot. It worked against cloggers in the championship, but he is been shown up against prem players who can match his engine but are also better in pretty much every other facet of the game. I don't think his fitness is an issue - against Newcastle for example he was still making lung bursting runs in the last 5 minutes. The problem was that each time he utterly failed to make a simple pass to play a team mate in, as you say, his quality on the ball is not great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 Any other manager would give him a rest. He is offering nothing at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thug Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 What the hell has happened to him?? Hes been appalling for quite a few games now. constantly caught in possession, and misplacing passes. Needs to get a grip, and fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastie Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 (edited) Needs to be dropped - his recent form is awful and should have been dropped a month ago Edited December 14, 2019 by Eastie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roonst83 Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 Can we get the old McGinn back please. We miss him desperately Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 That's the worst i've seen him ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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