TheStagMan Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 Holy crap guys. Dimwit serial bullshitter Nixon writes some crap about ManUre wanting McGinn for his clickbait, ad--filled rag of a newspaper and it generates pages of discussion. Nixon is a f*ckwit who knows nothing and is only interested in generating clicks for ad-revenue. Chill everyone. SJM is not leaving. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted July 30, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted July 30, 2019 3 hours ago, TheStagMan said: Holy crap guys. Dimwit serial bullshitter Nixon writes some crap about ManUre wanting McGinn for his clickbait, ad--filled rag of a newspaper and it generates pages of discussion. Nixon is a f*ckwit who knows nothing and is only interested in generating clicks for ad-revenue. Chill everyone. SJM is not leaving. I don't think anyone thinks he is. I think everyone has unanimously said the story is bollocks. The discussion is hypothetical. And quite an interesting one, imo. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 It was nice to have a conversation on here without somebody being racist... 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enda Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 7 hours ago, KenjiOgiwara said: I honestly think keeping McGinn can be the difference between surviving our initial season, or getting relegated again. It's one of the few British football grafters we got, and he has genuine quality. He also is well drilled in our tactics, has good relations with other key players like Grealish and El Ghazi. Selling him would be utterly foolish even if it was financially sound. Fortunately we won't be selling him, so take that talk and listen to Mr. Gold. We'll see. He's quality, in the starting 11, but he's never kicked a football in this league. Ten pounds to VT at the end of the season if McGinn is a 50 million pound player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brommy Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 3 hours ago, Enda said: We'll see. He's quality, in the starting 11, but he's never kicked a football in this league. Ten pounds to VT at the end of the season if McGinn is a 50 million pound player. Who decides whether he is a £50m player? Do you need a written offer of intent to purchase? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjw63 Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 3 hours ago, Enda said: We'll see. He's quality, in the starting 11, but he's never kicked a football in this league. Ten pounds to VT at the end of the season if McGinn is a 50 million pound player. A tenner? You tightarse! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LakotaDakota Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 Can't see him going in the next couple of weeks but if he has a good run up until christmas i wouldn't be surprised if someone had a go at getting him in Jan. If we are lounging around 16th and UTD/Arsenal etc make a bid you couldn't really blame him for at least being interested Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enda Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 50 minutes ago, brommy said: Who decides whether he is a £50m player? Do you need a written offer of intent to purchase? Fair point, we'll need some way to mark it. By no means perfect but let's use whoscored.com. Gueye just went for £30m and he has an average rating of 7.14 so a £50m player, even adjusting for age, would have to beat that. This website uses FM-like scores, where a 6 is normal and 7 is fairly good. So I'll put it this way: if John McGinn rounds out the season with an average rating of 7.15 (OR is listed in the Top 25 players in the league), I'll absolutely accept he's a £50m player. Until then I just don't accept he's worth more than Gueye and Douglas combined. 47 minutes ago, rjw63 said: A tenner? You tightarse! With the way sterling is going you lot will be happy to get it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 8 minutes ago, Enda said: Fair point, we'll need some way to mark it. By no means perfect but let's use whoscored.com. Gueye just went for £30m and he has an average rating of 7.14 so a £50m player, even adjusting for age, would have to beat that. This website uses FM-like scores, where a 6 is normal and 7 is fairly good. So I'll put it this way: if John McGinn rounds out the season with an average rating of 7.15 (OR is listed in the Top 25 players in the league), I'll absolutely accept he's a £50m player. Until then I just don't accept he's worth more than Gueye and Douglas combined. With the way sterling is going you lot will be happy to get it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Made In Aston Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 Good to see McGinn keeps on improving. When he first came his passing was a little bit wayward. That has definitely got better and he seems to have become more technically proficient with the ball at his feet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abdulaziz1 Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 3 hours ago, Enda said: Fair point, we'll need some way to mark it. By no means perfect but let's use whoscored.com. Gueye just went for £30m and he has an average rating of 7.14 so a £50m player, even adjusting for age, would have to beat that. This website uses FM-like scores, where a 6 is normal and 7 is fairly good. So I'll put it this way: if John McGinn rounds out the season with an average rating of 7.15 (OR is listed in the Top 25 players in the league), I'll absolutely accept he's a £50m player. Until then I just don't accept he's worth more than Gueye and Douglas combined. With the way sterling is going you lot will be happy to get it Would you rather him in your team sheet or Bissaka? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted July 31, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted July 31, 2019 17 hours ago, Enda said: We'll see. He's quality, in the starting 11, but he's never kicked a football in this league. Ten pounds to VT at the end of the season if McGinn is a 50 million pound player. He might be a £50m player by the end of the season. BUt that's a lot different than him being a £50m player now. If McGinn plays like he did in the Championship in the Premier League then I can totally see it. But I don't think anyone would be paying that much for him now. And if they did we'd be accepting it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalfTimePost Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 Rotate him with Luiz and when they both do well everyone will shit their pants at the nice sounding name and activate Luiz' clause instead of buying John and we get to keep him as we glide into Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skarroki Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 Anybody got access to the telegraph? There's an article on there saying McGinn trains like Rooney. Not got access to the full article though was curious what they had to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalfTimePost Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 Looked like he took his goal well, covers so much of the pitch, he's going to be so dangerous for us this year. £5.5m well spent on FPL I think! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentVillan Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 On 01/08/2019 at 12:49, skarroki said: Anybody got access to the telegraph? There's an article on there saying McGinn trains like Rooney. Not got access to the full article though was curious what they had to say. Not the Telegraph, but same interview: https://talksport.com/football/580979/john-mcginn-aston-villa-wayne-rooney-man-united/ Quote “He is a throwback,” Holden told the Times. “At Hibs, he would be the first one out to train and he’d ask, ‘What was Wayne Rooney like?’ “I’d say, ‘Just like you, son.’ Wayne would be the first out with a bag of balls on his back and last in carrying a bag of balls as well. “They are different players, and you can’t compare what they have done, but in terms of loving football and having drive and focus they are very similar. “John trains like a demon, cares massively about what he does and he is a gem of a kid.” A non-story tbh, but good to hear! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 We saw today that he lost the ball a few times in possession. He will have less time on the ball at this level and i think he learned that today. Very good test for him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted August 3, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted August 3, 2019 Yes, not his best game today. Really happy he scored at the end so can have a smile on his face after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillanousOne Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 30 minutes ago, villalad21 said: We saw today that he lost the ball a few times in possession. He will have less time on the ball at this level and i think he learned that today. Very good test for him. he didn't have a good game apart from the goal, but he was being pushed off the ball by three players every time he got it and some of those tackles should have resulted in a free kick, but he needs to find space quicker and release the ball faster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedClaretAndBlue Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 Remember when our midfield never chipped in with enough goals? They score all our goals thesedays 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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