mykeyb Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 Not commanding enough in any way. I missed their last goal and have only just seen it...........how close was the ball to him as it went past? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted November 29, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted November 29, 2018 2 hours ago, villalad21 said: Anyone seen him actually play or do you just assume he is better? Oh I totally assumed, hence saying he can't be much worse! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 (edited) Crap, the Boro game.... A Pulis side that will bully Nyland for the entire game with set pieces... not looking forward to this one! It's coming boys and you better be ready Edited November 29, 2018 by villalad21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srsmithusa Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 one of my many character flaws is that I look to see the best possible explanation for other people's conduct. For me, the first two goals were not his fault. the ball was literally passed into the net by second runs straight through the midfield. the opposition runner was unmarked. the least excusable was the last when he was beaten from a sharp angle at his near post. But i wonder if the earlier two had him second guessing and overplaying the possibility of a pass to an unmarked midfielder in center of goal (in other words, just assuming it was a possibility) which left him too central to stop the near post ball. I know, it's a bit of mind reading and generously considered, but he hasn't been as awful before, so I'm trying to figure out the psychology or the positioning of WHY he would be that bad. he had actually appeared to get quite a bit better recently, since the new GK coach arrived. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnkarl Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 Nyland was bad, but our back 4 was even worse. Two passes and our defense looses their shape, fight and any resemblance of a professional football team. Chester gave the ball away for their 3rd and the other goals just reek bad defensive structure. We need a new keeper and someone to rotate at CB when Chester\Tuanzebe are struggling like they are now. It doesn't take a scientist to see. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taxahunter Posted November 30, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted November 30, 2018 Nyland had a save percentage of 0%, 5 shots on target and 5 goals...that telles me everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 He needs sold. It just isn't going to work here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 I think Nylands better suited for netball than football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weedman Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 I was so angry about the 5th goal but having watched it back he's kind of unlucky there, he was set and moved slightly to his right as the ball was struck (which would have put the ball straight into him) and its then taken that tiny knick off Tuanzebe and snuck around him on the inside. Its actually really unlucky! The 4th he really should be saving and no chance on the others. Don't rate him and we need someone with more presence but he wasnt quite as bad as most are saying here, he was bad of course, but if the defence were doing there jobs at all he probably would have got a clean sheet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 1 hour ago, Demitri_C said: I think Nylands better suited for netball than football. The guy would struggle on table football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 49 minutes ago, weedman said: I was so angry about the 5th goal but having watched it back he's kind of unlucky there, he was set and moved slightly to his right as the ball was struck (which would have put the ball straight into him) and its then taken that tiny knick off Tuanzebe and snuck around him on the inside. Its actually really unlucky! The 4th he really should be saving and no chance on the others. Don't rate him and we need someone with more presence but he wasnt quite as bad as most are saying here, he was bad of course, but if the defence were doing there jobs at all he probably would have got a clean sheet! I see where you are coming from but he was called upon just 5 times in the game. He just needed to save one or two of them shots and we have 3 points. Smith wants us to play a very attacking game so back four and keeper will get exposed at times. He won’t get the protection of a Steve Bruce style everyone behind the ball team like Johnson was afforded last year. We need a top keeper more than ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaglint Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 (edited) I’m going to say this. He will put in a match winning performance on Sat including a fantastic save and for the most part dominating from the hundreds of crosses Boro will throw into the box. I think this because the world seems to have gone mad and I don’t understand it. Edited November 30, 2018 by villaglint 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastie Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 35 minutes ago, villaglint said: I’m going to say this. He will put in a match winning performance on Sat including a fantastic save and for the most part dominating from the hundreds of crosses Boro will through into the box. I think this because the world seems to have gone mad and I don’t understand it. I’d be amazed if he starts tomorrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weedman Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 2 hours ago, Vive_La_Villa said: I see where you are coming from but he was called upon just 5 times in the game. He just needed to save one or two of them shots and we have 3 points. Smith wants us to play a very attacking game so back four and keeper will get exposed at times. He won’t get the protection of a Steve Bruce style everyone behind the ball team like Johnson was afforded last year. We need a top keeper more than ever. I agree, but I think it's more a case of "the way we play we need a top keeper" rather than "Nyland is a terrible keeper" I don't actually think he's that bad but like you said he's not good enough if we're going to play a system that will leave us more open at the back. If he was 21 I'd be quite happy with him because he does a fair amount right and you'd expect him to iron out his mistakes over time but he's 28/9 isn't he? Can't see him getting much better than he is right now unfortunately Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 (edited) 10 minutes ago, weedman said: I agree, but I think it's more a case of "the way we play we need a top keeper" rather than "Nyland is a terrible keeper" I don't actually think he's that bad but like you said he's not good enough if we're going to play a system that will leave us more open at the back. If he was 21 I'd be quite happy with him because he does a fair amount right and you'd expect him to iron out his mistakes over time but he's 28/9 isn't he? Can't see him getting much better than he is right now unfortunately I think you’re being too kind mate. He is out way out his league! If he opts to remain in England he’s standard is probably league one. He wont cut it in this league with any team. Theres a good reason he has spent the majority of his career in Norway. Edited November 30, 2018 by Vive_La_Villa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 2 hours ago, villaglint said: He will put in a match winning performance on Sat including a fantastic save and for the most part dominating from the hundreds of crosses Boro will throw into the box. And the next week he will bottle it again, that's why we need a new keeper. Nyland is not reliable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 2 hours ago, Eastie said: I’d be amazed if he starts tomorrow Really ? - Smith has come out and publicly back Nyland - Reckons only 1 goal was his fault. Don't think he would endorse the keeper then drop him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dukes Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 42 minutes ago, hippo said: Really ? - Smith has come out and publicly back Nyland - Reckons only 1 goal was his fault. Don't think he would endorse the keeper then drop him. Right now I don't think he has any choice other than to try and give Nyland some confidence. I would be amazed if we don't bring in a keeper to replace him in January (and end Moreira's loan) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 6 minutes ago, dukes said: Right now I don't think he has any choice other than to try and give Nyland some confidence. I would be amazed if we don't bring in a keeper to replace him in January (and end Moreira's loan) Smith has hinted at Steer returning. I would disagree with DS in that I don't see any improvement in Nyland at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastie Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, hippo said: Really ? - Smith has come out and publicly back Nyland - Reckons only 1 goal was his fault. Don't think he would endorse the keeper then drop him. Publicly maybe he won’t hang him out to dry but privately I’d be very surprised if he was ok with that goalkeeping display . Didnt Bruce back him earlier this season and then drop him next game ? It might be best for nyland to be taken out of the firing line especially given the way boro play Edited November 30, 2018 by Eastie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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