holteend1982 Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 10 hours ago, Kiwivillan said: I thought Steer was excellent vs Hull WTF did he do to lose out to the 2 muppets we've brought in? He made some cracking saves in the Hull game especially that 1 on 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holteend1982 Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 10 hours ago, Kiwivillan said: I thought Steer was excellent vs Hull WTF did he do to lose out to the 2 muppets we've brought in? He made some cracking saves in the Hull game especially that 1 on 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jackbauer24 Posted September 2, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted September 2, 2018 Whilst Nyland has had some incredibly suspect moments, I can't help feel the situation is not helping him at all. Most keepers, whatever their quality, need time to settle in a new club - look at the likes of Alisson this week, or Johnstone in the early months. Add in he's also new to the country and the league. And, most importantly, look at the 'defence' he's got in front of him. Jedinak is a waste of space, Tuanzebe is playing in the wrong position, Chester's being pulled all over the place trying to do everyone else's job and there is no organisation or communication. I'm not shocked he's had a poor start here. He may end up being a poor signing but I'm not willing to write him off until he's at least got a League Two quality defence in front of him. Chester should be helping him out as CB and captain but is having to deal with too many other issues with MJ and AT. Nyland couldn't have been thrown in a deeper end... That doesn't excuse some absolute basic stuff he's messing up but that's confidence in your defence and your new team. I have seen some very good saves and I like the fact he takes the blame rather than looks for excuses. It's still early in his career here. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 26 minutes ago, holteend1982 said: He made some cracking saves in the Hull game especially that 1 on 1. 26 minutes ago, holteend1982 said: He made some cracking saves in the Hull game especially that 1 on 1. You can say that again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GarethRDR Posted September 2, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted September 2, 2018 43 minutes ago, jackbauer24 said: Whilst Nyland has had some incredibly suspect moments, I can't help feel the situation is not helping him at all. Most keepers, whatever their quality, need time to settle in a new club - look at the likes of Alisson this week, or Johnstone in the early months. Add in he's also new to the country and the league. And, most importantly, look at the 'defence' he's got in front of him. Jedinak is a waste of space, Tuanzebe is playing in the wrong position, Chester's being pulled all over the place trying to do everyone else's job and there is no organisation or communication. I'm not shocked he's had a poor start here. Indeed. After all, no man is a Nyland. 12 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 I accept it’s early days, new League, physicality, nerves. It is too early to judge him properly. But he has been dreadful so far, for all people say about our defence he’s barely had a handful of shots to save, and he’s conceded half of them. For me the key issue is ‘presence’. More essential for a keeper than anyone else, and he doesnt have any. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 On 11/08/2018 at 09:36, Dr_Pangloss said: Have a feeling he might be a bit of a car crash, let's hope not. Looks like I put a curse on him. This guy is absolutely shite, probably the worst keeper I've seen here since Enckleman and on this trajectory he could end up being worse. He has already directly cost us at least 4 goals with his errors/ weak wrists. Beyond that he has zero command over his area and totally non-existent from set pieces and crosses. Has to be dropped, Steer is better, what a ridiculous decision it was to loan him out, especially after a decent display at Hull. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 I would add, although I’ve never kept goal, that given is unfamiliarity with this Country and League, I’m surprised he comes out with the other GK, practices with them, saves a few shots, then goes in. I know it’s the typical routine but couldn’t they all come out together ? Couldn’t he do some stuff with the defence early on in the warm up, couldn’t Chester etc be including him/ talk8ngbwith him . He cuts rather an isolated figure before the game, and during ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 Just watched the highlights in detail. This keeper is awful. How did he not save the first 2 into the corner. Gonna cost us some goals this season this boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srsmithusa Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 1 hour ago, terrytini said: I accept it’s early days, new League, physicality, nerves. It is too early to judge him properly. But he has been dreadful so far, for all people say about our defence he’s barely had a handful of shots to save, and he’s conceded half of them. For me the key issue is ‘presence’. More essential for a keeper than anyone else, and he doesnt have any. Agree, would just add the word “yet” at the end. It would have been better to play steer for a while and let this young keeper adjust to nation club and teammates for a bit in cup and reserve matches. Most too early to tell if he’s got potential and throwing him the deep end has never worked for any keeper in my experience Several of his “errors” have come from poor communication between him and the back line That can be fixed in a series of good practice sessions But it hasn’t been 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted September 2, 2018 Moderator Share Posted September 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, srsmithusa said: Agree, would just add the word “yet” at the end. It would have been better to play steer for a while and let this young keeper adjust to nation club and teammates for a bit in cup and reserve matches. He's 28 next week. Jed Steer turns 26 two weeks later. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarethRDR Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 2 hours ago, terrytini said: I would add, although I’ve never kept goal, that given is unfamiliarity with this Country and League, I’m surprised he comes out with the other GK, practices with them, saves a few shots, then goes in. I know it’s the typical routine but couldn’t they all come out together ? Couldn’t he do some stuff with the defence early on in the warm up, couldn’t Chester etc be including him/ talk8ngbwith him . He cuts rather an isolated figure before the game, and during ! Speaking goalkeeperifically, I feel this is actually better. I don't want my defence to be chummy with me, I don't even want them to like me, I just want them to be absolutely terrified of the shrieking maniac hurling a loud mixture of abuse and instructions at them from behind, lest they fail to heed said instructions and incur my fiery, headbutt-based wrath. All the better that it's coming from a 6'4 Norseman, I say. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risso Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 57 minutes ago, NurembergVillan said: He's 28 next week. Jed Steer turns 26 two weeks later. A good point that is often missed. A 27 year old keeper that has mostly played 2nd tier football all his career. Putting a sub standard keeper like him behind an absolute wretched excuse for a defence is a recipe for disaster. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted September 2, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted September 2, 2018 He's a loser, gone, written off. He is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srsmithusa Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 1 hour ago, NurembergVillan said: He's 28 next week. Jed Steer turns 26 two weeks later. True, but for GK being comfortable and confident in yourself and your team is essential. That takes some time to develop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuartc445 Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 3 hours ago, terrytini said: I would add, although I’ve never kept goal, that given is unfamiliarity with this Country and League, I’m surprised he comes out with the other GK, practices with them, saves a few shots, then goes in. I know it’s the typical routine but couldn’t they all come out together ? Couldn’t he do some stuff with the defence early on in the warm up, couldn’t Chester etc be including him/ talk8ngbwith him . He cuts rather an isolated figure before the game, and during ! My mate pointed something similar, just before the 3rd goal he pointed out that he was giving out instructions to the defence but not one of them was listening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuartc445 Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 1 hour ago, Risso said: A good point that is often missed. A 27 year old keeper that has mostly played 2nd tier football all his career. Putting a sub standard keeper like him behind an absolute wretched excuse for a defence is a recipe for disaster. What tier is he currently playing in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LakotaDakota Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 He's 6 foot 4 and nearly 28 years old. Not like he's some scrawny 18 year old thrown in at the deep end. He has been a pro for 11 years and only managed 150 odd games in shitkicker foreign leagues. Sorry but he is shit and shouldn't be anywhere near the first 11 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 5 minutes ago, LakotaDakota said: He's 6 foot 4 and nearly 28 years old. Not like he's some scrawny 18 year old thrown in at the deep end. He has been a pro for 11 years and only managed 150 odd games in shitkicker foreign leagues. Sorry but he is shit and shouldn't be anywhere near the first 11 Yep, plus he's Norwegian, which means he almost certainly speaks English, so no excuses for him not being able to command his area and communicate with his back line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post El Zen Posted September 2, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted September 2, 2018 11 minutes ago, Dr_Pangloss said: Yep, plus he's Norwegian, which means he almost certainly speaks English Øi hæve nø ideæ whæt yø mean. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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