Popular Post Nigel Posted August 4, 2018 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted August 4, 2018 On 03/08/2018 at 07:10, sidcow said: I believe the non playing side is not subject to FFP calculations? Everyone I'd like you to meet our new catering manager Mr snodgrass and our new head of sock sales Mr Terry 2 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Made In Aston Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 We are still not set up as a modern club. Both Randy and Swiss Tony acknowledged the need but both made half arsed, amateurish attempts to do it. Hopefully the new guys get it right... Right people, right approach and right strategy. Fingers crossed! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romavillan Posted August 4, 2018 Author VT Supporter Share Posted August 4, 2018 2 hours ago, sne said: Have to say I am a bit disappointed and worried that this hasn't been addressed yet. I was kinda hoping that the new guys had a whole team lined up when they took over but it's been pretty quiet so far. Hopefully they'll get it right in the end. Totally, best case was they already had everyone lined up and ready to go, quick appointments with some pre-season to play with and take it from there. Right now, very much transition. I'd really like the DOF and CEO appointments soon though, because if the idea is to say, have a look at it till christmas, we need someone there to actually be having a look Even if they aren't implementing the pre-made plan, just coming up with one, they'd still have to be in the job in order to be doing that. The Henry rumours would hint that they've got some football connections, as would this new found ability to scout young talent from europe. These are big change that need to be made to get us into this century, never mind catch up with the best run clubs about. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mottaloo Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 On 03/08/2018 at 06:11, theboyangel said: That'll be the right wing sorted then...... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan_007 Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 I thought they already had their own management team running things in the short term. @TheEgo mentioned it in another thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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KSV Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 10 minutes ago, KJT123 said: absolutely massive news. Our best signing yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted August 5, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted August 5, 2018 14 minutes ago, KJT123 said: Nigel wants the same! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejoker Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 Kenyan would certainly show that the new owners mean business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, thejoker said: Kenyan would certainly show that the new owners mean business. Shady links to Mendes aswell. Wiki Quote On 22 September 2014, an investigation by The Guardian implicated Kenyon alongside Portuguese superagent Jorge Mendes in breaching FIFA regulations regarding third party ownership and conflict of interest in player representation, buying player rights through companies based in Jersey and Ireland.[6] The Guardian also published a detailed report showing Kenyon's ex-club Chelsea have invested in third party ownership via Mendes and Kenyon, a practice banned by the Premier League. Chelsea declined to comment on the accusations.[6][7][/quote] Edited August 5, 2018 by av1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 Peter Kenyon and Jorge Mendes has (a bit sketchy) history with 3rd party ownership of players. Quote FIFA investigates the investment fund set up by former Chelsea Chief Executive Peter Kenyon and controlled by Creative Artists Agency Inc and athlete management company, Gestifute SA., on violating the rules on transfer issues. The fund, which has invested in the future transfer value of about 15 players, is controlled by Kenyon’s talent-agency employer Creative Artists Agency Inc. and another athlete management company, Gestifute SA. co-owned by agressive football agent Jorge Mendes. Some of the players involved are managed by Gestifute, whose most prominent client is Real Madrid star Cristiano Ronaldo. Jose Maria Gay, a Barcelona University professor writes annual reports on soccer finance. He claims the arrangement may be a conflict of interest because Gestifute, who has transfer rights of almost every Portuguese players, could seek transfers for its clients that give the fund a greater return, according to Peter Kenyon the fund’s managers are “very conscious” not to influence trades, which would breach FIFA rules on footballer’s transfers. FIFA to investigate dubious transfer deals in European Football involving Gestifute SA&Quality Football Ireland Limited Although Kenyon states in various interviews that his fund has been aware of the ensuing conflict and managed that it on many occasions. “I’m confident that we’re operating within the guidelines of the football governing bodies and the financial bodies.” Kenyon added. FIFA’s rules say clubs face disciplinary action, which could include a financial penalty or blocking their access to the new signings, if they give third parties the ability to influence transfers. Los Angeles-based CAA, which represents actors including George Clooney, branched into sports in 2006, after prominent agent Jorge Mendes formed an alliance with Porto, Portugal-based Gestifute in 2008. They control the Dublin-based fund, Quality Football Ireland Ltd., through a parent company in Jersey in the English Channel. The fund has raised money from more than 20 “high net worth individuals” since last year, Kenyon said, adding the minimum investment is $250,000. Typically, the fund’s managers buy a share in the future transfer rights of a player aged 18 to 23 from a team for $1 million and shares any profit when he is sold to another club. Jorge Mendes : Is he the agent who owns the rights of players and financial future of several teams? Gestifute and Jorge Mendes acquired the rights of players from Sporting Lisbon and Turkey’s Besiktas among other clubs, according to team filings. FIFA can ban offending teams from the transfer market, block sales and suspend players and agents should third parties influence transfers. Gestifute, whose managing director is Jorge Mendes, is in such a position because it manages some of the players, and can influence transfer fees, according to Jose Maria Gay. Gestifute is setting the market prices in European football and those are very very high. “It really raises questions about who is setting the market price,” Gay said. Mendes brokered Ronaldo’s record $120 million move to Real Madrid from Manchester United in 2009. Gestifute executive Luis Correia declined to comment or make Mendes, his uncle, available. Mendes’s career shows “he hasn’t made money by moving players on,” Kenyon said. “If you look at his roster, he’s developed players in conjunction with” their clubs, Kenyon added. Ronaldo spent six years at Manchester United before joining Real. The fund doesn’t own a share in Ronaldo’s transfer rights. The dealing of Jose Mendes and his relations with Quality Football Ireland Limited was made public by NationalTurk earlier this year, after Jorge Mendes practically sold half of Portuguese National Team to Turkish side Besiktas in lucrative deals for his agency, which put the Turkish team’s finacial future in jeopardy. As some evidence indicate Quality Football Ireland Limited’s shares are owned by another sports agency. The prominent company’s name is more popular than ever. CAA Sports. Among the clients of American agency giants CAA Sports are very big names like Lebron James, David Beckham. CAA Sports attempts now to be important player in the lucrative European fooballer’s transfer market and therefore signed a partnership with Gestifute, which leads us to a well-known name and a rising star among all other european managers, Jorge Mendes. Jorge Mendes is a popular name in the European football, and his power and influence on the game is rising rapidly. Among his most prominent clients are Real Madrid star Christiano Ronaldo and manager Jose Mourinho. Cristiano Ronaldo: The most lucrative project of Gestifute ? The English Premier League banned third-party ownership of transfer rights after it complicated Argentina forward Carlos Tevez’s 2007 move to Manchester United. In Portugal, Turkey and Spain such ownership is becoming more common as banks rein in credit and clubs struggle to raise funds, Gay said. Jorge Mendes obviously seized the oppurtunity and made Besiktas Istanbul from Turkey one of his ”best” clients. It’s potentially lucrative: Ronaldo’s fee increased six- fold in the six years through 2009. At the same time, it’s a “high risk” strategy because players get injured or lose form, Gregor Reiter, director of the German players’ agent association, said. Besiktas young talents Muhammed Demirci, Necip Uysal, Atınc Nukan are footballers, whose rights were obtained by Mendes run Gestifute, as Besiktas chairman Yildirim Demiroren needs more and more funding for the big signings of Almeide, Simao Sabrosa etc. Besiktas can face a threat of transfer ban apllied by FIFA. http://www.nationalturk.com/en/fifa-probe-ex-chelsea-kenyon-cristiano-ronaldo’s-agent-mendes-14157/ So the talk about a close working relationship with Villa and Mendes might be true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 Good name appointment but Kenyon hasnt worked as chief executive since 2009 thats nearly 10 years. The game might have passed him by Interesting that neither him or Cortese seem to find football work after leaving the recent clubs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romavillan Posted August 5, 2018 Author VT Supporter Share Posted August 5, 2018 Could be that clubs were waiting to see what FIFA/the FA might do about the third party ownership shizzle. Kenyon would be a big statement, be interesting who he could bring in at board level too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted August 5, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted August 5, 2018 This sort of appointment is indeed 'top level' - quite happy with the shadiness too, about time we started playing this game like the real big boys do. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 Mirror staying the new owners are considering Kenyon as chief exec Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 (edited) 5 hours ago, Zatman said: Good name appointment but Kenyon hasnt worked as chief executive since 2009 thats nearly 10 years. The game might have passed him by Interesting that neither him or Cortese seem to find football work after leaving the recent clubs Kenyon Out ! Edited August 5, 2018 by terrytini Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 I’ll have a double helping of Kenyon, Mendes, shady links, and @nything else we’ve been missing out thanks !! 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 Changing from Wyness to Kenyan is like changing from Gabby to Messi. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 (edited) 7 hours ago, sne said: Peter Kenyon and Jorge Mendes has (a bit sketchy) history with 3rd party ownership of players. http://www.nationalturk.com/en/fifa-probe-ex-chelsea-kenyon-cristiano-ronaldo’s-agent-mendes-14157/ So the talk about a close working relationship with Villa and Mendes might be true. This Jose Maria Gay seems to be quite involved. Edited August 5, 2018 by Vive_La_Villa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 5 hours ago, Zatman said: Good name appointment but Kenyon hasnt worked as chief executive since 2009 thats nearly 10 years. The game might have passed him by Interesting that neither him or Cortese seem to find football work after leaving the recent clubs He is involved in football in various ways......but even if he wasn’t we’d do well getting him at the level we are currently at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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