AVTuco Posted July 26, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted July 26, 2018 Just now, Nigel said: Yay....you win him for the second half of the season! Thanks! I guess... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 52 minutes ago, Nigel said: I wont try and change your mind as im sure you see as many games as me but I find it funny how two people can see players so differently. The only thing id agree with you there is Davis lack of goals, but that position is about more than goals for me. We just see it differently mate. No issues with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romavillan Posted July 26, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted July 26, 2018 1 hour ago, TheAuthority said: TicTacs? Only one man for the job. The magic IMPLODE NOW spell, that's pretty much where it went tits up. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WakefieldVillan Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 I must concur what others have already said on here and that we do not have the players for playing 3-5-2. I too, do not mind the system but we seriously lack the pace (particularly at the back) and the ability on the ball to play out from defence. I hope Bruce is just trying a few things out in pre season and doesn't try it away at Hull in a couple of weeks time. As our team is at the moment I would play 4-1-4-1 and line up something like: Steer De Laet Chester Jedinak Hutton Bjarnsson Adomah Hourihane Grealish Kodija Davis (if fit) Bunn, Elmo, Elphick, Whelan, Green, Lansbury, Hogan Think we desperately need to add a new keeper (seen we are linked with one, Bunn should not be anyway near the squad). A new centre half - Think Terry would have worked in a three, I'd take Tuanzebe on loan, Huth would be an upgrade on Elphick, hard to say who though without knowing whst funds we have to work with. I would prefer Jedinak mopping up in front of the defence but only in certain games against physical opponents. I think Davis is the best we have at holding the ball up and bringing others into play, hence Kodija out wide. Need to keep Jack and Chester and I think with a couple of good loan signings we will be play-offs again UTV 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 experienced players tell the others what to do put the ball in the general direction of the good players winner 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted July 27, 2018 Author VT Supporter Share Posted July 27, 2018 (edited) You know what, I'd actually love to see this team going into the first game. It will be an unpopular opinion but I think it would be incredibly exciting. Steer Elmo Suliman Chester Hutton Hourihane - Doyle-Hayes Taylor Grealish Green Davis Play the youth! Edited July 27, 2018 by PieFacE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 Send them out and hope for the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted July 27, 2018 Author VT Supporter Share Posted July 27, 2018 Just now, jim said: Send them out and hope for the best. Well a lot of them will have been playing together for years, so they probably know how to play better than our first team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WakefieldVillan Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 16 minutes ago, PieFacE said: You know what, I'd actually love to see this team going into the first game. It will be an unpopular opinion but I think it would be incredibly exciting. Steer Elmo Suliman Chester Hutton Hourihane - Doyle-Hayes Taylor Grealish Green Davis Play the youth! Didn't realise we had re-signed Ian Taylor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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StewieGriffin Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 Big piece on the OS about 3-5-2 and it's benefits, so looks like We'll be using it Better sign some players to suit it then... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VILLAMARV Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 1 hour ago, StewieGriffin said: Big piece on the OS about 3-5-2 and it's benefits, so looks like We'll be using it Better sign some players to suit it then... Quite. Bree/Taylor/Elphick as CB's is a bad idea imo. Adomah and Green at Wing-Back? FFS. DeLaet - Hutton - Chester - ?????? - ?????? Elmo - Bree - Elphick - ?????? - Taylor Would be how I see our potential 1st and 2nd strings next year if it's a back 5 we're after. And the second one aint stopping many goals imo. Both of those holes at CB need, like Tro's been saying elsewhere a big strong lad in there. I fear he's eyeing up Jedinak's heading ability to shove in there. We need a decent left wing back if that's the plan. Green and Adomah should be much further forward imo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 2 hours ago, StewieGriffin said: Big piece on the OS about 3-5-2 and it's benefits, so looks like We'll be using it Better sign some players to suit it then... I wonder if the Moreira signing signifies we are looking for more technical, European players to suit the 3-5-2. Mind you, I've never seen Moreira and he could have the worst distribution going, but you really need a keeper and back 3 that are calm on the ball. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StewieGriffin Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 (edited) You also need ball playing centre backs who can step into midfield - we don't currently have that, and this is not an anti-Bruce comment here, but 1) that's not his style of play - don't get caught up in a modern fad. Stick to your principles as a manager. 2) Look at our squad - we'd need about 5 new players to play that way - we barely have enough cb's to play 4-4-2, never mind 3-5-2... 3) Utilise what we have and play a system to suit - don't shoehorn them into a system. Green/Adomah at wingback would be a criminally stupid thing to do. We tried 3/5/2 last year and it didn't work. Our personnel hasn't changed for the better since then. Edited July 27, 2018 by StewieGriffin 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carewjust4u Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 19 minutes ago, sharkyvilla said: I wonder if the Moreira signing signifies we are looking for more technical, European players to suit the 3-5-2. Mind you, I've never seen Moreira and he could have the worst distribution going, but you really need a keeper and back 3 that are calm on the ball. André Moreira Characteristics + Strengths Long passing Very Strong Shot stopping (Reflexes) Strong Saving close range shots Strong Saving long shots Strong - Weaknesses Concentration Weak https://www.whoscored.com/Players/235761/Show/André-Moreira 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pimlico_Villa Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 This is Bruce, so I'm expecting the classic 9 at the back, 1 midget upfront. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pimlico_Villa Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, carewjust4u said: André Moreira Characteristics + Strengths Long passing Very Strong Shot stopping (Reflexes) Strong Saving close range shots Strong Saving long shots Strong - Weaknesses Concentration Weak https://www.whoscored.com/Players/235761/Show/André-Moreira Bruce must have signed him for his "long passing" capability. Can see it working well with 6'5" Hogan playing up top. Edited July 27, 2018 by Pimlico_Villa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 23 minutes ago, Pimlico_Villa said: This is Bruce, so I'm expecting the classic 9 at the back, 1 midget upfront. He doesn't appear to be planning to use McCormack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 Regardless of formation we will be dropping deep and deploying kick and rush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pintpotvilla Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 3 minutes ago, Dr_Pangloss said: Regardless of formation we will be dropping deep and deploying kick and rush. You harbinger of doom you!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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