Davkaus Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 8 minutes ago, NFFC in peace said: THEN GO AGAIN!!1 Paul Lambert is a Forest fan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NFFC in peace Posted June 6, 2018 Visiting Supporter Share Posted June 6, 2018 2 minutes ago, Davkaus said: Paul Lambert is a Forest fan? Think it gets taught as a stock answer by all in football - I didnt think you'd get the irony! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted June 6, 2018 Author Share Posted June 6, 2018 12 minutes ago, NFFC in peace said: Think it gets taught as a stock answer by all in football - I didnt think you'd get the irony! We do humour at Aston Villa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PompeyVillan Posted June 6, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 6, 2018 This utterly ridiculous mismanagement of the worst kind. To gamble everything on promotion is brain dead economics. How stupid could you be? A football club isn't simply a business, as owner you are custodian and the fans truly own the club. To gamble the existence of the club in such a way is frivolous and disrespectful to the true core of the club, the fans. Going back to 'what we are loyal to?', we are loyal to our identity as Aston Villa and everything that goes with it. Ask West Ham fans, they're disgusted with their owners for getting them a bigger and more modern stadium because Upton Park was such a part of their identity. And the identity of a club lies in it's fans. If it were up to us we'd have definitely not sold the family silver to gamble on promotion. I can't believe that nobody said "hold on a minute, what happens if we don't get promoted?". It's a scenario that has been brushed under the carpet and evidently has come as massive blow. Balls to wealthy benefactors, what we need is someone who can grow the club over the long term whom will never lead the club into a situation like this again. 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PompeyVillan Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 (edited) 15 minutes ago, hippo said: We do humour at Aston Villa After we sell the training ground, car park, Villa Park and Jack Grealish our self deprecating sense of humour is all we'll have left. Edited June 6, 2018 by PompeyVillan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted June 6, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted June 6, 2018 8 minutes ago, hippo said: We do humour at Aston Villa Well we have to laugh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ismail-villa Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 1 hour ago, chrisvilla4 said: So I'm taking a deep breath and a break. My son is really getting into football so we are going to watch the world cup and enjoy it. Hopefully with England doing us proud (ha!) My sons 7 so will be no doubt supporting the team that wins and the coolest players. I like that philosophy at the moment. Enjoyment. I'll always be Villa. Thought it would be hell in the championship but I've enjoyed it. Moreso than a couple of seasons ago when we lost 8-0 to Chelsea followed by 4-0 to Tottenham over Christmas and if I'm being honest the thought of that happening again should we have been promoted was on my mind. Whatever crap is going on at the moment will still happen and be resolved so I'm not going to worry. Of course I hope we come out of this stronger as we all deserve it. We are a giant! UTV. VTID. Don't forget the 3-0 loss to Wigan after the Tottenham game! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewie Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 (edited) This is doing the rounds. Edited June 6, 2018 by Chewie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyjavfc Posted June 6, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted June 6, 2018 Sounds feasible. Selling at no loss is fanciful. Xia would do well to cut and run (sell) if preventing further loss of his money is the ultimate goal. How much longer can he plug a £5million gap every month and expect to make a return on his investment? Not to mention if administration happens he will lose everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheStagMan Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 (edited) Hmmmm, 8 million quid wage bill..... That sounds high to me. If true, it is outrageous. 96m/year. Need prem money just to pay the wages? Edited June 6, 2018 by TheStagMan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightoffyour Posted June 6, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted June 6, 2018 17 minutes ago, TheStagMan said: Hmmmm, 8 million quid wage bill..... That sounds high to me. If true, it is outrageous. 96m/year. Need prem money just to pay the wages? £8m / month = £2m / week = 40 players x £50k / week. It doesn’t add up thankfully. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewiek2 Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 More alarming is the weak level of business understanding from a supposed billionaire with multi-business ventures. Hmmm 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewiek2 Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 Don't forget the £8m is for all staff at he clubz not just the playing staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheStagMan Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 4 minutes ago, stewiek2 said: Don't forget the £8m is for all staff at he clubz not just the playing staff. As I understood it we have about 200 staff, which if we take an average of £30K/year then that works out at £500K/month, lets double that to include other costs (pensions, NI etc) and we are talking £1m/month. So thats £7m month on the playing staff. I would imagine the U23s are not on much, so lets say £3k/month so 50 (wild guess) of them equivalent to 5 first teamers at £30K a month. Add that to the 30 or so first teamers we have and assume an average of £30K that's £4.5m so £6.5m/month. Still a shitload but not £8m/month. Works out to an annual wage bill of £78m/year which is roughly the figure on the accounts IIRC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TheAuthority Posted June 7, 2018 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted June 7, 2018 2 hours ago, TheStagMan said: As I understood it we have about 200 staff, which if we take an average of £30K/year then that works out at £500K/month, lets double that to include other costs (pensions, NI etc) and we are talking £1m/month. So thats £7m month on the playing staff. I would imagine the U23s are not on much, so lets say £3k/month so 50 (wild guess) of them equivalent to 5 first teamers at £30K a month. Add that to the 30 or so first teamers we have and assume an average of £30K that's £4.5m so £6.5m/month. Still a shitload but not £8m/month. Works out to an annual wage bill of £78m/year which is roughly the figure on the accounts IIRC? 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul1984 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 3 hours ago, mikeyjavfc said: Sounds feasible. Selling at no loss is fanciful. Xia would do well to cut and run (sell) if preventing further loss of his money is the ultimate goal. How much longer can he plug a £5million gap every month and expect to make a return on his investment? Not to mention if administration happens he will lose everything. But he isnt doing that. 1, FFP doesnt allow him to inject that sort of money. 2, It doesnt tally with the accounts which show a wage bill of 61 million per year. 3, the last accounts show a loss of 15m ish and that was with a 20m net spend on players last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 (edited) Quote Aston Villa face bleak future as Tony Xia shortfall exposes house of cards https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/jun/06/aston-villa-tony-xia-bleak-future This is staggering. We are becoming more of an idea and less of a functioning football club. **** hell. We need someone with cash and enthusiasm, and quick. Edited June 7, 2018 by maqroll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciggiesnbeer Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 (edited) Alright everyone, sorry I have been offline a while, just gutted about the playoff final result, still next season we can... <looks up and around> What THE F#cks going on???? Edited June 7, 2018 by ciggiesnbeer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skills Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 16 hours ago, Rob182 said: On his last showing, Richards is basically a League One defender. No-one is going to take on a player of his ability for the money he's on now (£40k p/w, at least) and he's not going to agree to just stop being paid by Villa. McCormack could be sold, but because of FFP we're inexplicably better keeping him on the books and losing more money in wages than we would be to cut our losses and just sell him for a few million. FFP means that doing the latter would result in a bigger loss on our FFP accounts. Catch 22, flogging McCormack off would immediately help the cashflow but bite us on FFP... I understand why FFP was brought in, but in practice it doesn't translate to clubs making good business decisions 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 Aston Villa owe more than £11 million in transfer fees to fellow Sky Bet Championship clubs who, under the football creditors’ rule, are entitled to be paid before HM Revenue & Customs (HMRC) or other businesses, The Times has learnt. It is understood that Villa are due to pay the final instalments in the transfer fees of Ross McCormack and James Chester this summer, with Fulham and West Bromwich Albion owed payments of £6 million and £2 million respectively, while Brentford are owed £3 million for the transfer of Scott Hogan, with the final instalment due next January. https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/aston-villa-owe-11m-in-transfer-fees-to-rival-clubs-qkbcw5csm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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