JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 6 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: I think it could be a blessing in disguise. Promotion would have meant we just kicked the can down the road before we wound up here again. God knows what damage Wyness would have done in the top flight while lining his pockets. I can picture us years down the line in league one with a 50k seater state of the art stadium. Yup. We probably needed to be torn down all the way to the foundations to build the right way. That also includes Villa fans accepting our reality. To be honest, I think we will be ok as long as going forward we get the right team and a long term plan in place. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 37 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Was just talking to my neighbor about this who’s a saddlers fan. Told him we might be playing them twice a season in a years time. Are they getting promoted then? We have played them twice a season in the league before if we have to do it again so be it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob182 Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 3 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: That also includes Villa fans accepting our reality. Unfortunately, we know that wont be the case for many. I'm resigned to the fact that we're probably going to have to sell Grealish, Chester plus many of the fringe players to satisfy our FFP obligations. But you can guarantee that whoever is in charge will be getting both barrels from the usual crowd for doing what is needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 8 minutes ago, villa4europe said: the cyclical nature of football means that our day will come again With the money in the game these days? Nah. Unless we get bought by a trillionaire in a few years, our best days are a long way behind us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoof hearted Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 5 minutes ago, NIVillan said: Then get off. I have taken less interest over the past few years but I still enjoy saying I am a Villa fan. No one forces me to remain a Villa fan and other sports have me more interested at the moment, but for better or worse I will still be a Villan. That isnt a rally call for anyone else do what makes you happy. Been a Villa fan since the mid 70s, I was in Rotterdam with my Father and in the stands just after when Deadly sold the club from underneath us, and will love the club probably more than my wife and kids if truth be told until the day I die, but as is life, the ones you love are the ones that do your **** head in the most. I will never "get off" this rollercoaster because the pikeys running it have strapped me in to tightly. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 5 minutes ago, John said: Are they getting promoted then? We have played them twice a season in the league before if we have to do it again so be it. I might start following them. My local team. Never ever been in the red financially in their history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREAT_BEARD_OF_ZEUS Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 Could we not go to a huge Chinese based conglomerate and offer to give them a load of Yuan in exchange for a practically interest free loan in the UK? Or does it not work like that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omariqy Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 12 minutes ago, briny_ear said: Wasn’t suggesting you were lying, just making the typical vague type of ITK statement. You know the sort of thing - “obviously I can’t say too much /reveal my sources, but...” You also informed us that things are bad. We just missed a tax payment triggering the threat of a winding up order and our CEO was suspended. I think we can work out that things are bad for ourselves. I do get that but the information is very confidential. Tbh most of it is out there now since I posted although some details are incorrect. The gist of it is we have been mismanaged, we have cashflow issues, Wyness tried to pull a fast one, we have gambled on being promoted and now need finance otherwise we will go into admin. Takeover is needed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 16 minutes ago, NIVillan said: Then get off. I have taken less interest over the past few years but I still enjoy saying I am a Villa fan. No one forces me to remain a Villa fan and other sports have me more interested at the moment, but for better or worse I will still be a Villan. That isnt a rally call for anyone else do what makes you happy. You can’t just ‘get off’. Everyone knows that. Saying that I know a once hardcore season ticket holder than gave up on football and started following Rugby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacketspuds Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 6 minutes ago, omariqy said: I do get that but the information is very confidential. Tbh most of it is out there now since I posted although some details are incorrect. The gist of it is we have been mismanaged, we have cashflow issues, Wyness tried to pull a fast one, we have gambled on being promoted and now need finance otherwise we will go into admin. Takeover is needed! Any clue on if a takeover is likely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 5 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: I might start following them. My local team. Never ever been in the red financially in their history. I thought that they had been. The Saddlers fans I know are rarely happy and are well fed up with their owner. How about going to both next season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 Just now, John said: I thought that they had been. The Saddlers fans I know are rarely happy and are well fed up with their owner. How about going to both next season? Saddlers fans will never be happy because they will never take a chance and spend money. Happy plodding along in league one and selling the best players each year. I don’t think I could support them really. No love. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 25 minutes ago, Rob182 said: Unfortunately, we know that wont be the case for many. I'm resigned to the fact that we're probably going to have to sell Grealish, Chester plus many of the fringe players to satisfy our FFP obligations. But you can guarantee that whoever is in charge will be getting both barrels from the usual crowd for doing what is needed. Trust me it hurts I'm not going to pretend to be enthralled by us losing our best players, especially Jack and the chance to build a legacy with one of our own. Smh However unfortunately I'm now using to us missing all out best opportunities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 41 minutes ago, Hoof hearted said: Yep, he's taken some flak for the comment but it's not a million miles away from where I am at currently (I wouldn't take it as far as him though).Myself and a few pals (West Brom and Nosers included) have decided to go grass roots next season and bought season tickets for Halesowen Town! We are all that fudged off with our respective clubs. Halesowen aren’t exactly run well either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 29 minutes ago, Rob182 said: Unfortunately, we know that wont be the case for many. I'm resigned to the fact that we're probably going to have to sell Grealish, Chester plus many of the fringe players to satisfy our FFP obligations. But you can guarantee that whoever is in charge will be getting both barrels from the usual crowd for doing what is needed. Well it depends who is doing it. If it is the current group, they will be doing whats needed thanks to their **** ups, so they deserve it. If its a new group fixing the mess i'm sure fans will be understanding. Either way i fully expect the usual crowd jumping on anyone who dares criticise the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoof hearted Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 2 minutes ago, mikeyp102 said: Halesowen aren’t exactly run well either Yes, but I don't give two **** if they go under! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted June 6, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted June 6, 2018 1 hour ago, DeadlyDirk said: look at Rangers. Yes, they messed up and had to start again, but they're back in the (relative) big time now, they've shown a big club like our can rise from the ashes That's in Scotland, where there is only one other football team. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romavillan Posted June 6, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted June 6, 2018 Probs mentioned it in the wrong thread as I wrote it in the Wyness thread, but what does administration do to our value? I'm guessing it goes down to a level where what we owe out gets covered and no profit on top right? So we could be really bargain bucket material? Like £40-£50m? Surely at that level we'd get snapped up? Problem is by whom of course but that's a different question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 46 minutes ago, jacketspuds said: Any clue on if a takeover is likely? He won’t be able to say too much... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 47 minutes ago, John said: I thought that they had been. The Saddlers fans I know are rarely happy and are well fed up with their owner. How about going to both next season? Would you be happy if you came from Walsall? (Grovels in advance to anyone who comes from Walsall...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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