Jareth Posted March 14, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted March 14, 2023 Worth a watch - now that it is 'ok' to do this on TV. https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2023/mar/14/the-holy-land-and-us-review-this-taboo-busting-look-at-israel-and-palestine-isnt-afraid-of-controversy The Holy Land and Us follows British Jews whose family histories pivot around Israel and the impulse to defend it, but it states unabashedly that the creation of Israel came at grave cost to the Arab communities who had previously been the majority population in the area. This is what the Arab world calls the Nakba – “the catastrophe” – from which Palestinians have never recovered. The term is taboo in large parts of the media; that The Holy Land and Us references it in its opening minutes is a sign that it is ready to face criticism and try to cut a path to the truth. Britons with Palestinian heritage also feature; representatives of both groups visit the region in search of their forebears’ legacy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villakram Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 Further positive developments in the middle east, with fresh diplomatic ties between Syria and Saudi Arabia on the cards. https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20230320-report-saudi-to-reopen-consulate-in-syria/ "Saudi Arabia plans to reopen its consulate in the Syrian capital, Damascus, nearly 12 years after it was closed due to the outbreak of the civil war, Russia's Sputnik news agency reported. The agency quoted sources as saying that the kingdom may reopen the consulate in Damascus after the Eid Al-Fitr holiday, which follows the holy month of Ramadan. According to the agency, mediation efforts led by Russia and the United Arab Emirates (UAE) have culminated in overcoming obstacles facing the two Arab countries, pointing out that the step comes after the deal reached between Iran and Saudi Arabia to restore diplomatic relations." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted March 24, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted March 24, 2023 (edited) Meanwhile Netanyahu is on his way to the UK for a meeting. I hope he's given hell. That said - this is class Benjamin Netanyahu has been forced to delay his visit to Britain as a number of Israeli pilots have refused to fly him, the Telegraph understands. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/03/23/benjamin-netanyahu-uk-trip-threat-pilots-judicial-reform/ (is it ok to be critical of Israel if the intelligent people there are liberal?) Edited March 24, 2023 by Jareth 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 Othering people, reducing the power of courts, internment camps, throwing red meat to racists. and today she met a soulmate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted March 24, 2023 Moderator Share Posted March 24, 2023 Introduced by her predecessor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lapal_fan Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 I hate her wonky gob. Even before she showed herself to be a word removed, I always hated her wonky gob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted March 24, 2023 Moderator Share Posted March 24, 2023 7 minutes ago, lapal_fan said: I hate her wonky gob. Even before she showed herself to be a word removed, I always hated her wonky gob. Face always looks like it’s just been punched Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 Quote Israeli forces launch biggest military operation in West Bank’s Jenin since 2002 Israeli forces launched what a military source said is its largest military operation in the occupied West Bank city of Jenin in more than 20 years, killing at least eight people and injuring about 80 others, according to Palestinian officials. Videos obtained by CNN from Jenin show Israeli bulldozers tearing up streets to disarm IEDs, as well as Israeli tanks outside the city limits. Residents told CNN they heard explosions and heavy gunfire in the area, while video from the scene showed wounded Palestinians being evacuated by ambulance to Jenin Government Hospital. Five of those killed were teenagers, the Palestinian Ministry of Health said. A ninth Palestinian was shot and killed by Israeli forces near Ramallah in the West Bank in a separate incident, according to the health authorities. https://edition.cnn.com/2023/07/02/middleeast/israel-jenin-camp-idf-raid-west-bank-intl-hnk/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bielesibub Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 49 minutes ago, sne said: https://edition.cnn.com/2023/07/02/middleeast/israel-jenin-camp-idf-raid-west-bank-intl-hnk/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rustibrooks Posted July 5, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 5, 2023 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VILLAMARV Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 what a disgusting minimising response too. He hasn't educated her though - she'd have to be bothering to listen for that to happen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talldarkandransome Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 Can't say anything bad about Israel, you'll be called all sorts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted July 5, 2023 Moderator Share Posted July 5, 2023 1 hour ago, VILLAMARV said: what a disgusting minimising response too. He hasn't educated her though - she'd have to be bothering to listen for that to happen. Kay Burley only cares about Kay Burley. She's all about her optics and never about the actual story 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 Well this is not good Quote Israel and Hamas appear to be headed to war once again after the Palestinian militant group launched a massive aerial and ground surprise attack from the Gaza Strip. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/oct/07/hamas-launches-surprise-attack-on-israel-as-palestinian-gunmen-reported-in-south 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 This is going to be so bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jareth Posted October 7, 2023 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted October 7, 2023 Hardly surprising when your lives are so completely repressed and controlled by your neighbour. Pretty sure a war is what Israel want, they’ve been provoking this at speed since the far right came to power there. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 I’m not sure it can be called a war when one side is an industrialised nation with the latest equipment taking land from the locals that have vastly inferior arms but are in an existential crisis so have no choice but to fight with whatever they have. It would be like european gunboats 150 years ago claiming to be in a war against men with spears, having taken the land and resources from the men with spears. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post blandy Posted October 7, 2023 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted October 7, 2023 39 minutes ago, chrisp65 said: the locals that have vastly inferior arms but are in an existential crisis so have no choice but to fight with whatever they have. I mean yes to the point about imbalance and oppression… but when Hamas fires (they say) 5000 rockets indiscriminately across the border, sends armed gunmen to go on an indiscriminate shooting spree and hostage taking spree, and when they’re joined in that by Islamic Jihad, I personally think they perhaps did make some choices and that other choices were available. The normal people of Palestine deserve far far better than brutal Israeli oppression and far far better than sectarian Islamic jihadists and murderous Hamas loons. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 At least the daily protests against Netanyahu and his far right ultra nationalist/religious government has been cancelled today. That's a win, for someone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 15 minutes ago, blandy said: I mean yes to the point about imbalance and oppression… but when Hamas fires (they say) 5000 rockets indiscriminately across the border, sends armed gunmen to go on an indiscriminate shooting spree and hostage taking spree, and when they’re joined in that by Islamic Jihad, I personally think they perhaps did make some choices and that other choices were available. The normal people of Palestine deserve far far better than brutal Israeli oppression and far far better than sectarian Islamic jihadists and murderous Hamas loons. Hmmm, the Palestinians have made bad choices. What was the peaceful legal route to getting their land and their homes back that they missed? From the Balfour Declaration to now, what errors by the Palestinians have lead to their current situation? Perhaps if they just held peace vigils like the people from Diego Garcia they’d have their homes back now? If all the people of Lancashire were moved to Blackpool, with minimal health care, intermittent water supply, poor schooling, poor prospects, no economy. If that happened do you imagine there would spring up a peace movement and a people’s democracy of Blackpool to campaign peacefully through legal channels? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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