ciggiesnbeer Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 I find it very hard to get excited about getting Bentford's manager. I would if he was responsible for their system, but he isnt. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, markavfc40 said: If true then yes I am sure some managers would be uncomfortable with a manager in waiting working beneath them. Most managers would also like to be making decisions in terms of their assistants and first team coaches. It would definately make some not take the job. To be honest i think smith would struggle with JT. As i think JT is a big charchter and smith doesn't seem like someone who could control JT. I might be wrong but he comes across smith as abit soft. I have a feeling brentford wont give us permission anyway tbh. I think we will now and up giving it to terry The other thing i would say is I don't expect JT to be a number 2 for long I think someone would come in for him eventually Edited October 10, 2018 by Demitri_C 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papillon Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 Dodged a hule bullet with Thierry Henry. The guy knows nothing about management and would bounce immediately if something bigger came along. We need to realize that the Championship is very far from being sexy enough, so we can forget many of the candidates mentioned already. It will be someone like Moyes or Allardyce, nobody else wants to go to the second tier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted October 10, 2018 Moderator Share Posted October 10, 2018 4 minutes ago, pintpotvilla said: So it looks like we have identified 5 names Terry Carvahal Bruno Lage Rodgers Smith Who would we prefer? Of those I'd say Terry would only be a #2 to someone else. Lage would probably only be Carvalhal's #2 but I'm not sure I'd want him on his own. I wouldn't mind either of Rodgers or Smith tbh. Rodgers is more proven, but we also don't want to fall into the dreaded 'experience' trap either. The reason I'm not following it moment to moment is because there'll be a lot of utter horlicks talked in the press until an announcement is made. So I let it all play out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 1 minute ago, Papillon said: Dodged a hule bullet with Thierry Henry. The guy knows nothing about management and would bounce immediately if something bigger came along. We need to realize that the Championship is very far from being sexy enough, so we can forget many of the candidates mentioned already. It will be someone like Moyes or Allardyce, nobody else wants to go to the second tier. I dont mind alladyce tbh. I think he would definitely improve the squad. He seems to have abit of magic about getting the b2at put of what he has Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveAV1 Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 1 minute ago, ciggiesnbeer said: I find it very hard to get excited about getting Bentford's manager. I would if he was responsible for their system, but he isnt. I still don’t really understand this system thing. Firstly did he have it at Walsall? Secondly why can’t we replicate it? And thirdly if it’s all down to this system and it can’t be replicated, is Smith going to spend his entire career at Brentford? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, DaveAV1 said: Secondly why can’t we replicate it? ...because we only think of the here and now and spunk money up the wall, we've been doing it for years. I thought it would stop after nearly going to the wall this summer, but here we are again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted October 10, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted October 10, 2018 (edited) 15 minutes ago, ciggiesnbeer said: I find it very hard to get excited about getting Bentford's manager. I would if he was responsible for their system, but he isnt. Do tell! Edited October 10, 2018 by Nigel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 5 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: I dont mind alladyce tbh. I think he would definitely improve the squad. He seems to have abit of magic about getting the b2at put of what he has Everton, Newcastle, West Ham all say hello, probably others too........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 2 hours ago, Stevo985 said: There's no way Rafa would come here. It's pie in the sky stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 4 minutes ago, DaveAV1 said: I still don’t really understand this system thing. Firstly did he have it at Walsall? Secondly why can’t we replicate it? And thirdly if it’s all down to this system and it can’t be replicated, is Smith going to spend his entire career at Brentford? Who has left Brentford and gone on to better things? I could be wrong but it seems that when they sell their 'star players' they seem to drop off the radar a bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 1 minute ago, bannedfromHandV said: Everton, Newcastle, West Ham all say hello, probably others too........ Didn;t he actually do an OK job at all of those? But was mostly sacked due to fans wanting more sexy football? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villabromsgrove Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 20 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Quick thought. Does anyone feel us insisting that JT will HAVE to play a part in the Management/Coaching Team might be complicating things? You raise a really good point, but I think that JT as an icon would possibly outweigh his initial inability to improve us, by the sheer magnetic feel good factor that he exudes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 6 minutes ago, BOF said: Of those I'd say Terry would only be a #2 to someone else. Lage would probably only be Carvalhal's #2 but I'm not sure I'd want him on his own. I wouldn't mind either of Rodgers or Smith tbh. Rodgers is more proven, but we also don't want to fall into the dreaded 'experience' trap either. The reason I'm not following it moment to moment is because there'll be a lot of utter horlicks talked in the press until an announcement is made. So I let it all play out. I quite like Carvalhal and I suspect if we are struggling to get our top target(s) right now he will be the most open to a short-term and cheaper deal, whilst making us more competitive in the mean time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveAV1 Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 3 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Didn;t he actually do an OK job at all of those? But was mostly sacked due to fans wanting more sexy football? Well that’s what I want, no demand! Give me sexy football and give it to me now! In fact in this modern enlightened world of equal opportunity the job should go to the woman with the best legs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skruff Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 Has Jardin been fired from Monaco yet? Have Henry been hired at Monaco or ruled himself out of job here at Villa Park? Or are these conclusions only based on rumours in British press? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 (edited) Smith will be a disaster unless we can convince the whole of Brentford's footballing infrastructure to come with him which is doubtful. Not convinced by JT either yes he was a footballing icon but isn't it a bit of a big job for his first job? The only other coaching role he's been linked with is the Chelsea U21's. If those are the only candidates remaining that were looking at i'd be disappointed.. Edited October 10, 2018 by AshVilla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mjmooney Posted October 10, 2018 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted October 10, 2018 I'm starting to hate this thread as much as I did the Bruce one. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 1 minute ago, AshVilla said: Smith is going to be a disaster unless we can convince the whole of Brentford's footballing infrastructure to come with him which is doubtful. Oooohhhhh, no ones mentioned this before... I think Smith may as well give up management altogether. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villabromsgrove Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 15 minutes ago, Dick said: I loved that series. RIP Richard Griffiths. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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