Kiwivillan Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 Still think we should try and get this guy https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/mikel-arteta-masterminded-arsenal-defeat-13091117 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 24 minutes ago, Kiwivillan said: Still think we should try and get this guy https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/mikel-arteta-masterminded-arsenal-defeat-13091117 Not the half a billion pound squad that he is coaching 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 1 hour ago, Zatman said: Not the half a billion pound squad that he is coaching Yeah. Total write off. Good points well made Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirSteveUK Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 7 hours ago, Talldarkandransome said: Have I entered the twilight zone or summat, the JT thread is full off musings about having him as interim manager. Now I'm reading Sherwood was ok and wasn't given a chance. Christ on a bike You don't want Henry cos he's not experienced enough, yet he probably has more coaching experience than the two of them put together. Rodgers or Rafa, not interested in anyone else. And preferably before Blackburn. Now I'm definitely in the twighlight zone I'm sure Rafa would love to work for the guy who sacked him at Liverpool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul1984 Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 4 hours ago, Kiwivillan said: Still think we should try and get this guy https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/mikel-arteta-masterminded-arsenal-defeat-13091117 The endorsements would be enough for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dukes Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 4 hours ago, paul1984 said: The endorsements would be enough for me If he hasn’t got an endorsement from Alex Ferguson then forget it ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted September 6, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted September 6, 2018 If we got Arteta, at least we'd regain a certain female VTer. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 27 minutes ago, mjmooney said: If we got Arteta, at least we'd regain a certain female VTer. For a few months until he is sacked late April. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveAV1 Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 (edited) I understand people’s point when they say Arteta is only good because of the squad he works with. However if you had a bright shiny racing car in the garage would you rather have your grandma drive it or Lewis Hamilton? Man City employ the best on and off the pitch. I know that good coaches don’t always make good managers, but to discount someone because they work with the best, seems rather strange. Edited September 6, 2018 by DaveAV1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 1 minute ago, DaveAV1 said: I understand people’s point when they say Arteta is only good because of the squad he works with. However if you had a bright shiny racing car in the garage would you rather have your grandma drive it or Lewis Hamilton? Man City employ the best on and off the pitch. I know that good coaches don’t always make good managers, but to discount someone because they work with the best, seems rather strange. He has no management experience though. He has no knowledge to set up a defence which we badly need. I also suspect he do a Houllier by changing style of play without having the players available to him. Tiki taki with Hutton and Jedi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KH** Posted September 6, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted September 6, 2018 21 minutes ago, Zatman said: He has no management experience though. He has no knowledge to set up a defence which we badly need. I also suspect he do a Houllier by changing style of play without having the players available to him. Tiki taki with Hutton and Jedi What we need is someone with vast managerial experience in the league we’re in and someone who was a defender in his playing days to set up the defence.. oh wait..... 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveAV1 Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 1 hour ago, Zatman said: He has no management experience though. He has no knowledge to set up a defence which we badly need. I also suspect he do a Houllier by changing style of play without having the players available to him. Tiki taki with Hutton and Jedi Do you really think that as a senior coach at Man City he doesn’t know how to set up a defence?? I agree he has no management experience, but he will start somewhere so perhaps we should take the risk. Pochetinho had no experience in the PL, Southampton gave him the chance and now we have no chance of getting a manager like him. We currently have a very experienced manager and a former league winning CB and look at the mess he’s got us into at the back. The thing with experience is, some people have lots of different experiences and some people just have the same experience lots of times. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 2 minutes ago, DaveAV1 said: Do you really think that as a senior coach at Man City he doesn’t know how to set up a defence?? I agree he has no management experience, but he will start somewhere so perhaps we should take the risk. Pochetinho had no experience in the PL, Southampton gave him the chance and now we have no chance of getting a manager like him. We currently have a very experienced manager and a former league winning CB and look at the mess he’s got us into at the back. The thing with experience is, some people have lots of different experiences and some people just have the same experience lots of times. The manager of City cant even set up a defence I think we need a manager with managerial experience while still young and has fresh ideas. I don't want anybody from the merry go round or to be a training course for a big name ex player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveAV1 Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, Zatman said: The manager of City cant even set up a defence I think we need a manager with managerial experience while still young and has fresh ideas. I don't want anybody from the merry go round or to be a training course for a big name ex player I don’t want to be anyone’s leg up, or experiment either. Neither do I want to reject anyone because of predetermined ideas of what we need. The ideal manager, fresh ideas, relatively young and with managerial experience are out there, but they will come from abroad, and/or the lower divisions. Inevitably they will be a risk, every appointment is, you reduce that risk by being a top club in the Premier League who can attract the likes of Guardiola and Klopp. Presently that’s not where we are, so we have to try to find the next gem, who may have little or no experience as a manager. I honestly have no idea who that maybe, but we have stuck to these limited parameters, must have PL experience, must be unemployed, etc and this is where’s it’s got us. Perhaps now we can appoint someone from left field and have a proper structure and finances to back him. Unlike Garde who was the only recent left field appointment who whether he was good or not, was hung out to dry by Lerner and Fox. Just as an add on, Pep Guardiola’s only job in management before taking over at Barcelona, was the Barcelona B team. Edited September 6, 2018 by DaveAV1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WakefieldVillan Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 First post in here as I was up until very recently in the Bruce-In camp, I hope he can turn it around and he will have my full 100% support whilst he's here, however I think we need a change. My order of preference would be; 1) Arsene Wenger 2) Brendan Rogers 3) Rafa Benitez 4) Eddie Howe 5) David Wagner 6) Claudio Ranieri 7) Thierry Henry Chris Wilder 9) Giovanni Van Bronckhorst 10) Remi Garde Yes, I get that at least 9 of those are extremely unlikely to say the least! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srsmithusa Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 (edited) worrying that I am hearing no links outside of VT. And no real paper talk to speak of. Edited September 7, 2018 by srsmithusa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAuthority Posted September 7, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted September 7, 2018 14 minutes ago, srsmithusa said: worrying that I am hearing no links outside of VT. And no real paper talk to speak of. That's because Bruce is going nowhere. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mjmooney Posted September 7, 2018 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted September 7, 2018 21 minutes ago, TheAuthority said: That's because Bruce is going nowhere. Much like Aston Villa. 2 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewie Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 (edited) 5 hours ago, mjmooney said: Much like Aston Villa. Hmmm, a coincidence Edited September 7, 2018 by Chewie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveAV1 Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Chewie said: Hmmm, a coincidence I don’t believe in coincidences, you could be on to something here..... Edited September 7, 2018 by DaveAV1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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