Xela Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 3 minutes ago, KHV said: To get out the division Allardyce is probably the best and most realistic option. I dislike his football but he gets results. I'd take his style if it meant getting promotion. I'd happily sacrifice style for points. Look at West Ham, fat Sam was the best manager they had in years. Now they are **** but at least they have their fancy foreign flair manager they all demanded. Bruce has a good record of promotion 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 1 minute ago, KHV said: To get out the division Allardyce is probably the best and most realistic option. I dislike his football but he gets results. I'd take his style if it meant getting promotion. I'd happily sacrifice style for points. Look at West Ham, fat Sam was the best manager they had in years. Now they are **** but at least they have their fancy foreign flair manager they all demanded. It’s about knowing when the right time is to bin Allardyce. Everton played it right, now with Silva in charge they are doing well. The key with Allardyce is never ever keep him on longer than required. It’s the same with Bruce, Pulis etc. Personally I don’t want him here as I don’t think he is what we need now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHV Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 3 minutes ago, dudevillaisnice said: It’s about knowing when the right time is to bin Allardyce. Everton played it right, now with Silva in charge they are doing well. The key with Allardyce is never ever keep him on longer than required. It’s the same with Bruce, Pulis etc. Personally I don’t want him here as I don’t think he is what we need now. He best skill is organising a tram. That's the main thing we need . We are all over the shop at the moment. At least he plays people in the right place! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 1 minute ago, KHV said: He best skill is organising a tram. That's the main thing we need . We are all over the shop at the moment. At least he plays people in the right place! All aboard the Allardyce train? We don't want to be left at the station. Not for me thou 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHV Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 6 minutes ago, sne said: All aboard the Allardyce train? We don't want to be left at the station. Not for me thou I'm gonna leave that typo in 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightoffyour Posted September 2, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted September 2, 2018 1 hour ago, alreadyexists said: As @jackbauer24 has said, there is no such things as a long term manager anymore. The days of Wenger and Fergie are gone. I’d be amazed if Mourinho doesn’t go this season, and Conte didn’t last long at Chelsea, and it’s the same with smaller clubs. Gian Pieri Gasperini has been at Atalanta for a couple of years and they have really over achieved under him. Would like to see what he could do with us, although no Championship experience... does that really matter? 3 promotions minimum or not interested. Pep can do one. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael118 Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 2 hours ago, AvfcRigo82 said: I had money on Mr Fuji at 16/1. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post alreadyexists Posted September 2, 2018 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted September 2, 2018 Just now, fightoffyour said: 3 promotions minimum or not interested. Pep can do one. What about Beeve Struce? He’s got a good record. 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 Always liked the idea of klopps old assistant Buvac “the brain” behind developing the high press system as described by Klopp. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 Next Villa manager needs to be able to neck a pint of wine. Only one man for the job! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 People seriously would want Sam here? No. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 25 minutes ago, rodders0223 said: People seriously would want Sam here? No. Bruce and Sam are cut from the same cloth. I think it would be incredibly difficult to put forward an argument to sack Bruce and employ Sam. Sam epitomizes the very reasons i want Bruce gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Xela said: Next Villa manager needs to be able to neck a pint of wine. Only one man for the job! Not sure about his management skills, but he'd probably get on with RMC and he'd certainly drive the wage bill down. There are a few lads on our books that I'd like to see on zero hour contracts. Edited September 2, 2018 by av1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 7 minutes ago, av1 said: Bruce and Sam are cut from the same cloth. I think it would be incredibly difficult to put forward an argument to sack Bruce and employ Sam. Sam epitomizes the very reasons i want Bruce gone. If i'm honest, I view Sam, and even Warnock, as better versions of Bruce himself. So that should show you just how bad it is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Herman22 Posted September 2, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted September 2, 2018 I think we all agree that the new owners are no fools. They will have surrounded themselves with people who know football and know the numbers. When they remove Bruce and I think it is when rather than if, now. You would think they will look not only at getting out of the championship but also a sustainable model for the Premier League. Surely that means looking at a Wolves/ Fulham type manager. One who plays good football and can translate the football type using better players as we move up. Rather than Cardiff who will try (and ultimately fail) at trying to defend their way to 38 points for the season. The other point we should all consider is that there is a good team in our squad as it stands. We have the players to play proper football. We just need a manager with the courage to do it. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilS Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 1 minute ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: If i'm honest, I view Sam, and even Warnock, as better versions of Bruce himself. So that should show you just how bad it is. I agree, Sam Allardyce is definitely an upgrade on Bruce. He usually gets his teams consistently in top half of PL. Whether the fans would stomach his football, probably not. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 3 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: If i'm honest, I view Sam, and even Warnock, as better versions of Bruce himself. So that should show you just how bad it is. That may very well be the case, and for what its worth I'd agree with you. But i couldn't very well argue for Bruce to be sacked because of XYZ, and then suggest Sam as a replacement. He may well do those things slightly better, but i don't want to slightly improve upon the things i think are damaging to our long term success, i want a fresh long term sustainable model. Sam won't provide that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 I know it would require him dropping down a league, but does anyone think a good sell could convince Eddie Howe out of Bournemouth? They are such a small club relative to most their competition that they are never going to punch to far above their weight, and it's unlikely that his time at Bournemouth will ever convince any of the "big boys" to take a chance. 1 steo back to potentially take a couple of steps forward might appeal to him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan4Life Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 I wouldn't be suprised if Board of Directors and Purslow are drawing up a list of successors at the moment ready to pull at any time on Bruce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastie Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 1 hour ago, rodders0223 said: People seriously would want Sam here? No. I don’t think big Sam would take the job - he held Everton to a hard bargain before going there - don’t see him dropping now a division again and also he’s Bruce’s mate so I doubt would want to take it -besd\does that his style of football is no better than Bruce . Hopefully Mendes has another potential Nuno up his sleeve . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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