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Just now, Genie said:

Where are you getting the 10-30 offers from? 

I should have said 10-30 bets, as opposed to offesr. So the regular ones that I'll do are the Sky first race special (money back as a freebet if 2nd/3rd), then there's the WH '4 means more' which I'll usually do to the full £200 stake with a bet boost to make it risk free, then I'll scour the odds to try a few Betfair and Bet365 'freebets for winners' on the horses. Another one that I do quite a lot is the Bet365 2-Up offer. I'll often back about 4 or 5 different teams in a day, if there's a full fixture list to chose from. That seems to be a pretty good low risk/high reward offer. Just skim through the footy games and find a decent match, usually around £1.50 loss for a potential £100+ payout, and then set my Flashscores app to notify me if there are any goals in the game.

Other than those regular ones, I'll do the odd offers that come through on email, as well as the usual Casino 'Bet £x get £x' offers.

Lately, I've been placing a few No-Lay Accas too. They're so much easier than actually laying each leg of the acca. I'll be honest though, and say that I don't compare the odds to those on the exchange. I just pick 5 teams that I think will win, and take the extra value from the insurance of a freebet if only one team lets me down. I think in the last 2 months I've probably done about 10 £20 No-Lay accas. I've had 2 winners, each returning over £250, I think I've had about 3 £20 freebets, and then the rest have lost. I'm easily a few hundred up on No-Lay accas.

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5 hours ago, Rob182 said:

I should have said 10-30 bets, as opposed to offesr. So the regular ones that I'll do are the Sky first race special (money back as a freebet if 2nd/3rd), then there's the WH '4 means more' which I'll usually do to the full £200 stake with a bet boost to make it risk free, then I'll scour the odds to try a few Betfair and Bet365 'freebets for winners' on the horses. Another one that I do quite a lot is the Bet365 2-Up offer. I'll often back about 4 or 5 different teams in a day, if there's a full fixture list to chose from. That seems to be a pretty good low risk/high reward offer. Just skim through the footy games and find a decent match, usually around £1.50 loss for a potential £100+ payout, and then set my Flashscores app to notify me if there are any goals in the game.

Other than those regular ones, I'll do the odd offers that come through on email, as well as the usual Casino 'Bet £x get £x' offers.

Lately, I've been placing a few No-Lay Accas too. They're so much easier than actually laying each leg of the acca. I'll be honest though, and say that I don't compare the odds to those on the exchange. I just pick 5 teams that I think will win, and take the extra value from the insurance of a freebet if only one team lets me down. I think in the last 2 months I've probably done about 10 £20 No-Lay accas. I've had 2 winners, each returning over £250, I think I've had about 3 £20 freebets, and then the rest have lost. I'm easily a few hundred up on No-Lay accas.

Good stuff, I need to look into those no lay accas now I have a bit more time having moved house.

I guess it’s jusy literally betting on an axa as normal but picking the ones with the best insurance/refund?

5 hours ago, Wainy316 said:

Do you do much EW dutching Genie?

No, not done any of those. I’ve watched the training and understand what to do but always change my mind when it comes to putting the bets on. I used to find the discussion threads on dutching quite confusing for something that is quite simple. 

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7 hours ago, Rob182 said:

 

Cheers for making the thread @Genie. I'm pretty sure @KHV is in the 'squad' too. 

 

 

Yeah I'm in the squad happily making money and working part time as a result :D

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5 hours ago, Rob182 said:

I feel like some of the reload offers have been dwindling lately. There used to be loads of higher value offers compared to now (Winner free spins every Thursday, 188 roulette free spins every Tuesday and Thursday, Coral double winnings seemed to be every other week), so I'm hoping a few new high-value offers appear, and this isn't a sign of things to come, with bookies becoming more and more aware of matched betters.

 

Edit: Some more offers that have gone: Bruce Betting freebet if your team leads and loses, Sunbets payout if your team lead at half-time and lose.

I make around £200 - £300 on the betclub offers. It's a lot of work though if you don't have time. Especially if you do the Blacktype offer twice!  I do all of the betclubs available and some twice.

I then make around £100 - £250 on accas (been experimenting with a new strategy).

The rest comes from low risk Casino offers, WOD and EWD although the EWD I tend to do on grade 1, 2 or 3 races as I get paranoid about restrictions.

 

 

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18 minutes ago, Genie said:

 

No, not done any of those. I’ve watched the training and understand what to do but always change my mind when it comes to putting the bets on. I used to find the discussion threads on dutching quite confusing for something that is quite simple. 

When I started dutching I found it confusing. The way I learnt was to fill in the spreadsheet but not place any bets just to make sure I was doing everything correctly before losing money. It becomes second nature when you get the hang of it

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I’ve probably dutched about ten races ever. I didn’t do it until about a year into matched betting, because it always looked too confusing and stressful (which I still think it can be). In those ten races I probably had about five £1-5 winners, three £20-£40 winners and then a couple of £150-£250 winners. It’s good when you get a shock result, but in the other occasions it feels like a waste of an hour and just a huge shuffling around of money. Lately I’m happy sticking to the standard sports and casino offers, with the odd ACO and No Lay acca thrown in.

 

@Genie Tonight I did three No Lay accas, and you’re right, essentially you’re just placing an acca that will qualify for a freebet refund if one leg lets you down (Will Hill and Ladbrokes are my Go To bookies). Although tonight was 1 ‘proper’ No Lay acca and 2 punts on the Sky treble:

 

£20 on Ladbrokes on Villa, Bayern, Real, Fulham and Wolves. Would have returned £279 had Wolves won, but as they let me down, I will just get a £20 freebet instead.

 

£20 on the Skyboost treble (Bayern, Real & Fulham), I cashed out for £119.

 

£25 on the Skyboost treble (again), which I left to run, and it paid out £200.

 

Obviously the worst case scenario would have been that all three lost, and I’d be £65 down, but I won over £500 at the weekend so I was happy to risk it. I honestly don’t think I’d have even been that disappointed if I’d lost £65. Easy come, easy go!

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13 hours ago, Genie said:

When you say 1 spin though, do you need to engineer it so it’s 1 spin on minimum stake? Also, is it only bonus round winnings then that go to cash? I got a 5 of a kind but the money vanished :angry:

I’ve never been so sad to only win £100 in my life. 

Was the cap £100 or £20?

Which offer was it?

Buffalo/Epic Ape/Mike Tyson/Live Casino? I wonder whether things are slightly different if they're games/casino &c.?

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8 hours ago, snowychap said:

Was the cap £100 or £20?

Which offer was it?

Buffalo/Epic Ape/Mike Tyson/Live Casino? I wonder whether things are slightly different if they're games/casino &c.?

This one of bet £10 get £5 slot offers with £100 max winnings. 

I think the £20 max winnings are the offers that have no initial stake, just free spins/cash. 

Edit: found the screenshot, it was on age of Egypt slot and it was a max £20 winnings. Gutted.

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Ah that's a bummer @Genie. Do you guys still use the PS forum? It seems a bit redundant to me now. I only use it to read up on strategies or for the daily calender. Since Discord, it seems to have died a death. Also, have any of you logged onto the new sister-site forum? My log-details don't work on there, and I've emailed PS a few times and they seem to be ignoring me.

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8 minutes ago, Rob182 said:

Ah that's a bummer @Genie. Do you guys still use the PS forum? It seems a bit redundant to me now. I only use it to read up on strategies or for the daily calender. Since Discord, it seems to have died a death. Also, have any of you logged onto the new sister-site forum? My log-details don't work on there, and I've emailed PS a few times and they seem to be ignoring me.

Like you I only look at the calendar for quick and easy offers. Strange that they spent so much time and money getting it up and running now it’s mothballed. 

The merger is a concern to me, usually these kind of things signal the beginning of the end.

If so it’ll be a huge shame. PS had a really good community feel (like VT). 

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Yeah, I agree about the community part. I'm not sure the merger will signal the end, but it definitely raised a few eyebrows. It seems to me that PS are the better company of the two, and I think they've merged as a way to gain a few hundred new customers. Ben has said that it's a way of the two companies sharing the better elements of each other, but I don't really think that PS will improve much from gaining the one or two decent tools that the other company has. 

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33 minutes ago, Rob182 said:

Yeah, I agree about the community part. I'm not sure the merger will signal the end, but it definitely raised a few eyebrows. It seems to me that PS are the better company of the two, and I think they've merged as a way to gain a few hundred new customers. Ben has said that it's a way of the two companies sharing the better elements of each other, but I don't really think that PS will improve much from gaining the one or two decent tools that the other company has. 

I agree, PS had all the main bases covered. I’m not sure they needed to merge to improve  service, just to make them a few quid I guess.

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