TheAuthority Posted February 17, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted February 17, 2018 Just now, AJ said: This thread is hilarious. I never want @Michael118 to stop posting on here. The comedy that ensues after has me in tears. He always brings out the best jokes in everyone! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 31 minutes ago, NurembergVillan said: Just a reminder of Okore's Villa swansong... His centre back partner leaves a lot to be desired 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAuthority Posted February 17, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted February 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, Zatman said: His centre back partner leaves a lot to be desired You can just about see Richards jogging back 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 Weighing everything up, considering all the pros and cons, and assessing the relative skills, I have to say most of Team A can do one. No. Just, no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 (edited) Just like clockwork, this happened tonight. Edited February 18, 2018 by rodders0223 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 Okore-Clark were actually quite solid for us towards the end of Lambert's tenure although we'd gone ultra-defensive at that point. Rest of that 15/16 was horrible though, central midfielders who never scored or created and our attack post Benteke was abysmal. While it's easy to just dismiss this thread given some of the amusing views Michael has ultimately you struggle at premier league level if you don't have enough athleticism or creativity in your team. In our just about surving premier league teams likes of Delph and Benteke had those qualities. As soon as they left we were done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 What am i reading? It also wouldn't be close. Team B would destroy team A in every single department. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael118 Posted February 18, 2018 Author Share Posted February 18, 2018 (edited) 6 of Team A's starting 11 in 2015/16... Libor Kozak - 1W 2D 1L (The loss came against Sunderland when he came on after 76 mins with us down 2-1). Jores Okore - 2W 5D 5L (3 of those losses were against Arsenal, Liverpool and Tottenham). Carles Gil - Played 90 mins in just 6 games for a record of 2W 1D 3L (2 of those losses were against Chelsea away & Liverpool away). Leandro Bacuna - One of only 3 players who featured for 90 mins in all our wins, the others being Gueye and Westwood. His record that season was 3W 5D 14L but 5 of those losses were against Manchester United x2, Arsenal x2 and Tottenham away. Jordan Amavi - Played only 10 games for 1W 2D 7L but 4 of those losses were against Man City, Man Utd, Chesea & Liverpool. Adama Traore - Played only 184 mins, the equivalent of 2 games. The Managers... Sam Allardyce - Took over at Sunderland when they were without a win in their first 8 games and kept them up with a record of 9W (30%) 9D (30%) 12L (40%). The following season they were relegated under Moyes with a record of 6W (15%) 6D (15%) 26L (68%) and are currently in the Championshp relegation zone. Tony Pulis - His record at West Brom from 2015/16 to when he was sacked is 25W (27%) 30D (32%) 37L (40%). Since he left it's 2W (13%) 7D (43%) 7L (43%). Steve Bruce - Hasn't managed in the Premier League since relegating Hull City in 2014/15. Edited February 18, 2018 by Michael118 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 This thread a wind up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 21 minutes ago, Michael118 said: 5 of Team A's starting 11 in 2015/16... Libor Kozak - 1W 2D 1L (The loss was against Sunderland when he came on after 76 mins with us down 1-2). Jores Okore - 2W 5D 5L (3 of those losses were against Arsenal, Liverpool and Tottenham). Carles Gil - Played 90 mins in just 6 games for a record of 2W 1D 3L (2 of those losses were against Chelsea away & Liverpool away). Leandro Bacuna - One of only 3 players who featured for 90 mins in all our wins, the others being Gueye and Westwood. His record that season was 3W 5D 14L but 5 of those losses were against Man Utd x2, Arsenal x2 and Tottenham away. Jordan Amavi - Played only 10 games for 1W 2D 7L but 4 of those losses were against Man City, Man Utd, Chesea & Liverpool. Adama Traore - Played only 184 mins, the equivalent of 2 games. Managers... Sam Allardyce - Took over Sundeland when they were without a win after 8 games. Kept them up with a record of 9W (30%) 9D (30%) 12L (40%). Left that summer and they were relegated under Moyes the following season with a record of 6W (15%) 6D (15%) 26L (68%). Currently in the Championshp relegation zone. Tony Pulis - His record at West Brom from 2015/16 to when he was sacked is 25W (27%) 30D (32%) 37L (40%). Since he left it's 2W (13%) 7D (43%) 7L (43%). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 This thread.... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael118 Posted February 18, 2018 Author Share Posted February 18, 2018 Our biggest issue was scoring and creating. The only 3 games with Kozak and Gil involved and 7/11 of 'team A', resulted in a win against Crystal Palace, a draw against Leicester (which would have been a win if Kozak was awarded a penalty which he deserved) and a draw against West Brom. 1 win, 2 draws, 0 losses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stratvillan Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 40 minutes ago, Michael118 said: Our biggest issue was scoring and creating. The only 3 games with Kozak and Gil involved and 7/11 of 'team A', resulted in a win against Crystal Palace, a draw against Leicester (which would have been a win if Kozak was awarded a penalty which he deserved) and a draw against West Brom. 1 win, 2 draws, 0 losses. Statistically irrelevant. That's europa league form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 45 minutes ago, Michael118 said: Our biggest issue was scoring and creating. The only 3 games with Kozak and Gil involved and 7/11 of 'team A', resulted in a win against Crystal Palace, a draw against Leicester (which would have been a win if Kozak was awarded a penalty which he deserved) and a draw against West Brom. 1 win, 2 draws, 0 losses. I like your use of stats but it's in the wrong area. Can you send us some stats to helps us place some wagers or something? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 The more interesting thing is how will the remnants of this current team hold up next season? In the PL or Championship. For me it will need a lot of work regardless of what league we end up in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 1 minute ago, sne said: The more interesting thing is how will the remnants of this current team hold up next season? In the PL or Championship. For me it will need a lot of work regardless of what league we end up in. I know it's not the most popular of opinions anymore but I'd still prefer a new manager. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 I'd say that our current team is a lot better than the 'relegation' team, however this current team would still get relegated, it's just that it'd get more points and make a much better fist of it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael118 Posted February 18, 2018 Author Share Posted February 18, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, Stratvillan said: Statistically irrelevant. That's europa league form. Yeah, well Kozak got injured in the West Brom game and we managed only 1 win from the next 15 and it was 1 win from the first 20 before he was introduced. Edited February 18, 2018 by Michael118 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 6 hours ago, Michael118 said: 6 of Team A's starting 11 in 2015/16... Libor Kozak - 1W 2D 1L (The loss came against Sunderland when he came on after 76 mins with us down 2-1). Jores Okore - 2W 5D 5L (3 of those losses were against Arsenal, Liverpool and Tottenham). Carles Gil - Played 90 mins in just 6 games for a record of 2W 1D 3L (2 of those losses were against Chelsea away & Liverpool away). Leandro Bacuna - One of only 3 players who featured for 90 mins in all our wins, the others being Gueye and Westwood. His record that season was 3W 5D 14L but 5 of those losses were against Manchester United x2, Arsenal x2 and Tottenham away. Jordan Amavi - Played only 10 games for 1W 2D 7L but 4 of those losses were against Man City, Man Utd, Chesea & Liverpool. Adama Traore - Played only 184 mins, the equivalent of 2 games. The phrase 'a litany of excuses' springs to mind. Bottom line - that team wasn't good enough. Those players weren't good enough. With the exception of Amavi and Gil (who is barely playing for Deportivo, failing to live up to your promise that he would really show his worth in La Liga) the others aren't playing top-flight football in a top European league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael118 Posted February 18, 2018 Author Share Posted February 18, 2018 4 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: The phrase 'a litany of excuses' springs to mind. Bottom line - that team wasn't good enough. Those players weren't good enough. With the exception of Amavi and Gil (who is barely playing for Deportivo, failing to live up to your promise that he would really show his worth in La Liga) the others aren't playing top-flight football in a top European league. How is it a 'litany of excuses'? Whichever way you look at it, those 6 players played a combined total of 6217 mins, which on average is 11.5 games each. Take 6 of the best 11 out of any team for 70% of a season and see where they end up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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