Popular Post sidcow Posted February 6, 2018 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted February 6, 2018 (edited) I heard mention of a WW1 poem which mentioned Aston Villa which was published in Wipers Times, a kind of trenches fanzine. I tracked it down so here it is if you are interested: The Burning Question Three Tommies sat in a trench one day, Discussing the war, in the usual way, They talked of the mud, and they talked of the Hun, Of what was to do, and what had been done, They talked about rum, and – ’tis hard to believe – They even found time to speak about leave. But the point which they argued from post back to pillar, Was whether Notts County could beat Aston Villa. The night sped away, and zero drew nigh, Equipment made ready, all lips getting dry, And watches consulted with each passing minute Till five more to go, then ‘twould find them all in it; The word came along down the line to “get ready!” The sergeants admonishing all to keep steady, But out rang a voice getting shriller and shriller: “I tell yer Notts County can beat Aston Villa!” The Earth shook and swayed, and the barrage was on As they leapt o’er the top with a rush and were gone Away into Hunland, through mud and through wire, Stabbing and dragging themselves through the mire, No time to heed those who are falling en route Till, stopped by a strong point, they lay down to shoot, Then, through the din came a voice: “Say, Jack Miller! I tell yer Notts County can beat Aston Villa!” The strong point has gone, and forward they press Towards their objective, in numbers grown less They reach it at last, and prepare to resist The counter-attack which will come through the mist Of the rain falling steadily; dig and hang on, The word for support back to H.Q. has gone, The air, charge with moment, grows stiller and stiller – “Notts County’s no earthly beside Aston Villa.” Two “Blighties”, a struggle through mud to get back To the old A.D.S. down a rough duck-board track, A hasty field dressing, a ride in a car, A wait in a C.C.S., then there they are: Packed side by side in a clean Red Cross train, Happy in hopes to see Blighty again, Still, through the bandages, muffled, “Jack Miller, I bet you Notts County can beat Aston Villa!” Whilst looking for this I saw reference to another WW1 poem mentioning Villa Park, I'll maybe try find that one as well. They think the guy who wrote this was killed the day after the edition was printed. Shame for the guy who got injured, no way we would be losing to Notts County. Must have been shell shocked or summat. Edited February 6, 2018 by sidcow 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 I believe there was also a trench called Aston Villa. Allegedly the Germans would also shout across no man's land things like 'Hey Tommy, how's the Villa?!' 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAuthority Posted February 6, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted February 6, 2018 I love my club 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted February 6, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted February 6, 2018 That’s great. I thought this was going to be about the the VP reference in that Phillip Larkin poem “MCMXIV” - “Those long uneven lines Standing as patiently As if they were stretched outside The Oval or Villa Park....” 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted February 6, 2018 Author VT Supporter Share Posted February 6, 2018 2 minutes ago, Shropshire Lad said: That’s great. I thought this was going to be about the the VP reference in that Phillip Larkin poem “MCMXIV” - “Those long uneven lines Standing as patiently As if they were stretched outside The Oval or Villa Park....” That's the other one I saw reference to. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Platt Posted February 6, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted February 6, 2018 12 minutes ago, Chindie said: I believe there was also a trench called Aston Villa. Allegedly the Germans would also shout across no man's land things like 'Hey Tommy, how's the Villa?!' 2 Allied Trenches one named Aston one Villa. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 4 minutes ago, S-Platt said: 2 Allied Trenches one named Aston one Villa. I knew it was something like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 We must have easily been the most decorated football club in the world at the time. Strange huh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted February 6, 2018 Moderator Share Posted February 6, 2018 2 hours ago, sidcow said: I heard mention of a WW1 poem which mentioned Aston Villa which was published in Wipers Times, a kind of trenches fanzine. I tracked it down so here it is if you are interested: The Burning Question Three Tommies sat in a trench one day, Discussing the war, in the usual way, They talked of the mud, and they talked of the Hun, Of what was to do, and what had been done, They talked about rum, and – ’tis hard to believe – They even found time to speak about leave. But the point which they argued from post back to pillar, Was whether Notts County could beat Aston Villa. The night sped away, and zero drew nigh, Equipment made ready, all lips getting dry, And watches consulted with each passing minute Till five more to go, then ‘twould find them all in it; The word came along down the line to “get ready!” The sergeants admonishing all to keep steady, But out rang a voice getting shriller and shriller: “I tell yer Notts County can beat Aston Villa!” The Earth shook and swayed, and the barrage was on As they leapt o’er the top with a rush and were gone Away into Hunland, through mud and through wire, Stabbing and dragging themselves through the mire, No time to heed those who are falling en route Till, stopped by a strong point, they lay down to shoot, Then, through the din came a voice: “Say, Jack Miller! I tell yer Notts County can beat Aston Villa!” The strong point has gone, and forward they press Towards their objective, in numbers grown less They reach it at last, and prepare to resist The counter-attack which will come through the mist Of the rain falling steadily; dig and hang on, The word for support back to H.Q. has gone, The air, charge with moment, grows stiller and stiller – “Notts County’s no earthly beside Aston Villa.” Two “Blighties”, a struggle through mud to get back To the old A.D.S. down a rough duck-board track, A hasty field dressing, a ride in a car, A wait in a C.C.S., then there they are: Packed side by side in a clean Red Cross train, Happy in hopes to see Blighty again, Still, through the bandages, muffled, “Jack Miller, I bet you Notts County can beat Aston Villa!” Whilst looking for this I saw reference to another WW1 poem mentioning Villa Park, I'll maybe try find that one as well. They think the guy who wrote this was killed the day after the edition was printed. Shame for the guy who got injured, no way we would be losing to Notts County. Must have been shell shocked or summat. Notts County got absolutely slapped by Swansea tonight, so this poem just gives you an insight into the kind of people that were sent out as cannon fodder. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted February 7, 2018 Author VT Supporter Share Posted February 7, 2018 I suppose in 1914 we would have still probably been considered the leading club in the country. Over the previous 40 years we had dominated English Football and although ironically that was pretty much the end of it people wouldn't have known that yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIVillan Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 I was in an English Class at an American University when I came across the Phillip Larkin reference to Villa Park. I think my classmates were shocked by a sudden outburst 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaJ100 Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 We were by far and away the biggest and most successful club probably in the world at that point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted February 7, 2018 Author VT Supporter Share Posted February 7, 2018 20 minutes ago, VillaJ100 said: We were by far and away the biggest and most successful club probably in the world at that point. Still are mate 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colhint Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 Never has there been or will be again a club with the dominance that Aston Villa had. Sure clubs will have more money or more trophies. Will anyone of them ever be mentioned in literature, apart from a few journalists. Will any of them ever make a club change colours because how big they were. We may not be Apple or Microsoft, but we definitely are Alan Turing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alreadyexists Posted February 8, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted February 8, 2018 15 hours ago, NIVillan said: I was in an English Class at an American University when I came across the Phillip Larkin reference to Villa Park. I think my classmates were shocked by a sudden outburst Love Philip Larkin, such a bleak and brilliant poet. That’s one of his best too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincenzo Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 Reading that brought a tear to my eye... Proud to be British and a Villa fan UTV! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightoffyour Posted February 8, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted February 8, 2018 16 hours ago, colhint said: Never has there been or will be again a club with the dominance that Aston Villa had. Sure clubs will have more money or more trophies. Will anyone of them ever be mentioned in literature, apart from a few journalists. Will any of them ever make a club change colours because how big they were. We may not be Apple or Microsoft, but we definitely are Alan Turing. I'm cool with that, I work in the Alan Turing building. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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