tommybread Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 1 hour ago, villakram said: A really interesting point and you can see it in the way the big players want games ref now, Neymar and the like think they're playing basketball at times. It does seem to be dying out of the game a bit. The emphasis coming through is completely on playing the ball with your feet. Heading is even banned in some places for youth age groups. Heading doesn't play a big part in academy football as it is ingrained into the players to keep the ball on the deck and play with your feet. You can see this by looking at all the highest rated young CBs. They are all "ball playing" CBs who are usually slighter and more skilled than your old school CB. United's recent signing in Lindelof coming in highly rated, also struggles in the air. Or James WIlson has an incredible standing jump which should lend itself to being good in the air but jumping high isn't very relevant for him because he has never learned how to properly judge the flight of the ball and time headers. Rashford is also quite weak at judging headers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alreadyexists Posted January 13, 2018 Author VT Supporter Share Posted January 13, 2018 I imagine he’s being signed to add competition to our squad, and if he’s good enough he plays. Surely that’s the same as any signing, I doubt we ever sign a player to sit on the bench, or to start for that matter, surely all players hope to be starting and likely are confident enough to think they can. Then the manager can play they or not depending on how good they are. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 I've heard of Axel Rose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashingqwerty Posted January 13, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted January 13, 2018 ive heard of axel foley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 I've heard of Curtis axel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 Axle Grease? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 Maybe we are bringing this guy in because Elphick is leaving? Would make sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuwabatake Sanjuro Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 18 hours ago, tommybread said: It does seem to be dying out of the game a bit. The emphasis coming through is completely on playing the ball with your feet. Heading is even banned in some places for youth age groups. Heading doesn't play a big part in academy football as it is ingrained into the players to keep the ball on the deck and play with your feet. You can see this by looking at all the highest rated young CBs. They are all "ball playing" CBs who are usually slighter and more skilled than your old school CB. United's recent signing in Lindelof coming in highly rated, also struggles in the air. Or James WIlson has an incredible standing jump which should lend itself to being good in the air but jumping high isn't very relevant for him because he has never learned how to properly judge the flight of the ball and time headers. Rashford is also quite weak at judging headers. It took years for Cristiano Ronaldo to score a goal with his head, once he started he became world class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted January 13, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted January 13, 2018 8 hours ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Maybe we are bringing this guy in because Elphick is leaving? Would make sense. After today it looks more like because Whelan and Jedi are injury prone and Thor is off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 2 hours ago, Jareth said: After today it looks more like because Whelan and Jedi are injury prone and Thor is off. Jedinak is injury prone, Whelan isn't and I doubt Thor will be sold until the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 This is an odd one if it happens. Surely promising players like this don't go on loan to sit on the bench and play the odd game here and there. But there is no way he plays cb and surely will only play dm when jedinak isn't fit. Maybe rb but then we could field a 5 a side team of just rbs. I don't see the big advantage of coming to us. If man u are sending him on loan it would make more sense for them and him to send him to a team where he plays week in week out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romavillan Posted January 14, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted January 14, 2018 11 hours ago, Kuwabatake Sanjuro said: It took years for Cristiano Ronaldo to score a goal with his head, once he started he became world class. He grew up playing Futsal, like Messi. Ball doesn't get off the floor, is smaller and heavier etc. No heading involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted January 14, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted January 14, 2018 10 hours ago, The Fun Factory said: Jedinak is injury prone, Whelan isn't and I doubt Thor will be sold until the summer. Whelan is 34, injuries are likely. Thor looked good yesterday but there were reports he’s off to Seria A in jan. Axel seems like a versatile defensive young stand-in for a few positions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alreadyexists Posted January 14, 2018 Author VT Supporter Share Posted January 14, 2018 (edited) I wonder if the (ATM - M) means AT as in Axel Tuanzebe? Edited January 14, 2018 by alreadyexists Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 On 13/01/2018 at 13:31, Vive_La_Villa said: Maybe we are bringing this guy in because Elphick is leaving? Would make sense. Bruce has mentioned 1 or 2 going the other way outwards so my early guess could be Elphick & Bjarnasson maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nnock1984 Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 2 hours ago, alreadyexists said: I wonder if the (ATM - M) means AT as in Axel Tuanzebe? I reckon nail on head 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginko Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 Pretty sure it stands for 'Ass To', Tone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyAnty Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 Dave Jenkins @DaveJenkins56 10m10 minutes ago More Axel Tuanzebe will sign for #AVFC on loan before the end of the month. United feel its a good place for him to learn, just waiting on assessment of condition to Eric Bailly. Could be done by the end of the week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 Dave Jenkins lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 1 minute ago, HeyAnty said: Dave Jenkins @DaveJenkins56 10m10 minutes ago More Axel Tuanzebe will sign for #AVFC on loan before the end of the month. United feel its a good place for him to learn, just waiting on assessment of condition to Eric Bailly. Could be done by the end of the week. Who the hell is dave Jenkins? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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