Junxs Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 On 04/09/2019 at 19:13, gurru991 said: I would like to think that Refs are constantly being graded throughout the season with their decisions being reviewed. It doesn't help Villa but surely Friend gets a failing grade. Be interesting to see where Kevin Friend is refereeing this weekend, if it's not in the Premier League then we know h'es had a grilling out of the public eye and been punished / demoted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 Will be very interesting to see how VAR is used this weekend after it having been a bit of a mess in recent weeks. They've had their "emergency" meeting, they've admitted that's it's not worked as it should and now we will see where they take it. Wouldn't be surprised to see in implemented much more again and a return to how it was during round 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 21 hours ago, sne said: And the ref should also use it more or be told to consult it on more occasions. Unfortunately fans get in the way, too. Constant whinging about the time it takes the ref to do so, they would rather decisions be wrong than wait a few minutes, apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 1 minute ago, kurtsimonw said: Unfortunately fans get in the way, too. Constant whinging about the time it takes the ref to do so, they would rather decisions be wrong than wait a few minutes, apparently. If things are so difficult to spot that it takes several minutes to decide when watching a video then it won't be a major error missed. Most stuff is easy to spot on the replay and if they still can't be sure after watching the video then I'd be fine with it having been a possible human error and the game continued without a delay. It's a living thing, dubious situations are part of the game. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 VAR is a joke. Shockingly blatant penalty ignored by both the ref and the VAR ref. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, sne said: VAR is a joke. Shockingly blatant penalty ignored by both the ref and the VAR ref. Can't be right. It's only made 4 mistakes all season if you believe the PL Near flawless. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 The problem with VAR is that referees don’t like to criticise each other, therefore they don’t want to overrule a decision. In the World Cup it seemed a far better use, where VAR would signal to the referee that they think he’s missed something, then the referee would review themselves and make a decision to overturn their own decision. This means that they are not being criticised. Not sure what they are trying to do with it at present 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 1 minute ago, mikeyp102 said: The problem with VAR is that referees don’t like to criticise each other, therefore they don’t want to overrule a decision. In the World Cup it seemed a far better use, where VAR would signal to the referee that they think he’s missed something, then the referee would review themselves and make a decision to overturn their own decision. This means that they are not being criticised. Not sure what they are trying to do with it at present The refs on the pitch are also not making calls they otherwise would have made because they have a fail safe with VAR. Problem is as you say that the VAR ref is reluctant to change the calls on the pitch. It's a double mess. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 The implementation has been nothing short of a farce but i expect nothing less with the state of refereeing in this country. Richest league in the world and we still have middle aged refs who can barely jog. Too many jobs for the boys, as always. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 20 minutes ago, rodders0223 said: The implementation has been nothing short of a farce but i expect nothing less with the state of refereeing in this country. Richest league in the world and we still have middle aged refs who can barely jog. Too many jobs for the boys, as always. I think the standard of refereeing is terrible, but I can’t agree about the fitness. For me that is the one thing they are very good at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 Noble 2nd yellow for diving Penalty on El Ghazi **** VAR especially as Dean is having a good game so far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 The actual 2nd yellow... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 Fair enough if VAR doesn't review this after the embarrassments during the womens WC. But surely the ref has to call it then when they have gone to the trouble of having a new rule about it. Ref's not making calls because they have VAR to save them, and VAR not allowed to step in to fix blatant wrongs and mistakes like this. At least 1 foot on the line by the keeper... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 Apparently the VAR check in the Chelsea game last night took 2 minutes to complete - and I'd assume that whatever form of measure they used last night they use every time. So okay, 2 minutes here and there not so bad I guess..... However, I was watching the game and rewound it as 2 minutes seemed short to me, from the moment the ball hit the defenders arm to Barkley missing the penalty it was actually over 4 minutes, which is worrying. So Chelsea not only had no advantage having missed the penalty but then also lost 4+ minutes out of the last 10 minutes available - double whammy. I remain utterly unconvinced as to the legitimacy of VAR in football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted September 18, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted September 18, 2019 It's shit. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 7 hours ago, bannedfromHandV said: Apparently the VAR check in the Chelsea game last night took 2 minutes to complete - and I'd assume that whatever form of measure they used last night they use every time. So okay, 2 minutes here and there not so bad I guess..... However, I was watching the game and rewound it as 2 minutes seemed short to me, from the moment the ball hit the defenders arm to Barkley missing the penalty it was actually over 4 minutes, which is worrying. So Chelsea not only had no advantage having missed the penalty but then also lost 4+ minutes out of the last 10 minutes available - double whammy. I remain utterly unconvinced as to the legitimacy of VAR in football. Oh, and there were 3 minutes of time added on in total at the end of the 90 minutes. As mentioned, 4 minutes alone were lost because of VAR alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 Anyone still think it's better than before? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ingram85 Posted September 19, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 19, 2019 The technology is there, the technology is great. It's being used by completely incompetent imbeciles in a farcical and nonsensical way. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mic09 Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 9 hours ago, Genie said: Anyone still think it's better than before? 57 minutes ago, Ingram85 said: The technology is there, the technology is great. It's being used by completely incompetent imbeciles in a farcical and nonsensical way. This to answer the above question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skruff Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Ingram85 said: The technology is there, the technology is great. It's being used by completely incompetent imbeciles in a farcical and nonsensical way. Couldn't be said better. There are blatant fouls the whole footballing world agrees on, that they chose to ignore. With no VAR its fine, its a bad call in the heat of the moment. We're humans. But when the fouls are being reviewed and it's there for the whole world to see. Yet they chose to do nothing about it. It's both infuriating and embarrassing. What is it? self-preservation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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