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But at least the PL can state that they have VAR.

That they have no idea of how to use it or implement it apparently doesn't matter.

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Staggering incompetence. Do any of the officials actually know how they're supposed to use VAR? Serious question. On early results across football, it is an abject failure on every level.

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Get rid of it, the only thing it's going to get you is a load of smashed seats and endangered stewards.

Surely the people who pay the TV money can find a better way to ensure that they can "influence" games to their liking.

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VAR actually checked this and still didnt give a red

 

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14 minutes ago, andym said:

VAR actually checked this and still didnt give a red

 

Holy shit!!

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Just now, StefanAVFC said:

It's not the technology, it's the way it's being used.

In the PL it seems it isn't being used to overturn bad ref's decisions or mistakes, just to check borderline offsides.

If it were used like it was in the WC, it would be much better.

Nope, if it wasn’t used at all and a non-conversation it would be better 

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2 minutes ago, bannedfromHandV said:

Nope, if it wasn’t used at all and a non-conversation it would be better 

I mean, Friend still blew for the 'dive' and the goal didn't stand so VAR wouldn't have made a difference here.

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15 minutes ago, bannedfromHandV said:

Nope, if it wasn’t used at all and a non-conversation it would be better 

How? We're mad at VAR for not overturning the decision. Nothing would have changed. It's not VAR, it's the piss poor level of officiating in England.

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7 minutes ago, villa4europe said:

The problem is a fool with a tool is still a fool

 

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The problem with the Friend/Grealish incident is that Friend rushed to judgement.  It was impossible for him to be totally certain that grealish wasn't fouled.  Replays show Jack was fouled at least by Saha in the first instance which caused him to lose balance, and Cahill appears to have caught Jack otherwise Cahill would not have ended on the floor clutching he leg.  If Friend had a stong suspicion that Grealish had dived he could have checked VAR after the goal was scored.  

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3 minutes ago, Keyblade said:

How? We're mad at VAR for not overturning the decision. Nothing would have changed. It's not VAR, it's the piss poor level of officiating in England.

Well yes and no. VAR is inseparable from it's implementation. Get the implementation wrong and it's a disaster which makes the game worse not better, as we are seeing this season in the Premier League with 'our' brand of VAR. ]

This season will only get worse and seems to be being used as an experiment until 'they get it right'.

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20 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said:

I mean, Friend still blew for the 'dive' and the goal didn't stand so VAR wouldn't have made a difference here.

I just don't see how it can be a dive when Grealish made a successful pass to a teammate in a goalscoring position. The problem of course is that he didn't even let the play run on that long, the whistle blew before it landed at Lansbury's feet, it was really an unprecedented level of incompetency.

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Just now, Dr_Pangloss said:

 

Well yes and no. VAR is inseparable from it's implementation. Get the implementation wrong and it's a disaster which makes the game worse not better, as we are seeing this season in the Premier League with 'our' brand of VAR. ]

This season will only get worse and seems to be being used as an experiment until 'they get it right'.

Yeah but in this case, VAR had nothing to do with the decision. If it was implemented properly it would have overturned it, which it didn't because it's not...but that's a completely separate issue and one that's very much solvable. Can't see how you can improve the refereeing without just importing referees until a new, better-trained crop rise up.

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Surely when speaking of VAR you (I do at least) mean both the technology and the way it is implemented.

It's what's happening during the games that is what we are getting, not some best case scenario where ref's, the technology and the people reviewing the videos are working in perfect harmony with the gods.

 

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