sne Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 But at least the PL can state that they have VAR. That they have no idea of how to use it or implement it apparently doesn't matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Staggering incompetence. Do any of the officials actually know how they're supposed to use VAR? Serious question. On early results across football, it is an abject failure on every level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Literally what's the point of it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 A urgent review is needed during the international break Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dr_Pangloss Posted August 31, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted August 31, 2019 2 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: Literally what's the point of it? Seemingly it's to rule goals out for offside in the event the tip of an attacking player's nose is 'off'. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farlz Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 It's a complete joke. Utterly useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted August 31, 2019 Moderator Share Posted August 31, 2019 Get rid of it, the only thing it's going to get you is a load of smashed seats and endangered stewards. Surely the people who pay the TV money can find a better way to ensure that they can "influence" games to their liking. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andym Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 VAR actually checked this and still didnt give a red 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheStagMan Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 14 minutes ago, andym said: VAR actually checked this and still didnt give a red Holy shit!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Where’s the VAR enthusiast crew now?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post StefanAVFC Posted August 31, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted August 31, 2019 Just now, bannedfromHandV said: Where’s the VAR enthusiast crew now?! It's not the technology, it's the way it's being used. In the PL it seems it isn't being used to overturn bad ref's decisions or mistakes, just to check borderline offsides. If it were used like it was in the WC, it would be much better. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Just now, StefanAVFC said: It's not the technology, it's the way it's being used. In the PL it seems it isn't being used to overturn bad ref's decisions or mistakes, just to check borderline offsides. If it were used like it was in the WC, it would be much better. Nope, if it wasn’t used at all and a non-conversation it would be better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 2 minutes ago, bannedfromHandV said: Nope, if it wasn’t used at all and a non-conversation it would be better I mean, Friend still blew for the 'dive' and the goal didn't stand so VAR wouldn't have made a difference here. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post villa4europe Posted August 31, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted August 31, 2019 The problem is a fool with a tool is still a fool 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 15 minutes ago, bannedfromHandV said: Nope, if it wasn’t used at all and a non-conversation it would be better How? We're mad at VAR for not overturning the decision. Nothing would have changed. It's not VAR, it's the piss poor level of officiating in England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humanoid Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 7 minutes ago, villa4europe said: The problem is a fool with a tool is still a fool True The problem with the Friend/Grealish incident is that Friend rushed to judgement. It was impossible for him to be totally certain that grealish wasn't fouled. Replays show Jack was fouled at least by Saha in the first instance which caused him to lose balance, and Cahill appears to have caught Jack otherwise Cahill would not have ended on the floor clutching he leg. If Friend had a stong suspicion that Grealish had dived he could have checked VAR after the goal was scored. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 3 minutes ago, Keyblade said: How? We're mad at VAR for not overturning the decision. Nothing would have changed. It's not VAR, it's the piss poor level of officiating in England. Well yes and no. VAR is inseparable from it's implementation. Get the implementation wrong and it's a disaster which makes the game worse not better, as we are seeing this season in the Premier League with 'our' brand of VAR. ] This season will only get worse and seems to be being used as an experiment until 'they get it right'. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 20 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: I mean, Friend still blew for the 'dive' and the goal didn't stand so VAR wouldn't have made a difference here. I just don't see how it can be a dive when Grealish made a successful pass to a teammate in a goalscoring position. The problem of course is that he didn't even let the play run on that long, the whistle blew before it landed at Lansbury's feet, it was really an unprecedented level of incompetency. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Just now, Dr_Pangloss said: Well yes and no. VAR is inseparable from it's implementation. Get the implementation wrong and it's a disaster which makes the game worse not better, as we are seeing this season in the Premier League with 'our' brand of VAR. ] This season will only get worse and seems to be being used as an experiment until 'they get it right'. Yeah but in this case, VAR had nothing to do with the decision. If it was implemented properly it would have overturned it, which it didn't because it's not...but that's a completely separate issue and one that's very much solvable. Can't see how you can improve the refereeing without just importing referees until a new, better-trained crop rise up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Surely when speaking of VAR you (I do at least) mean both the technology and the way it is implemented. It's what's happening during the games that is what we are getting, not some best case scenario where ref's, the technology and the people reviewing the videos are working in perfect harmony with the gods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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