villadodo Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 To be honest I don't think VAR is the only problem it is the ridiculous nature of some of the rules of the game. Why is the goalkeeper not allowed to stray a millimetre off their goal line? If they dive straight along the line they will crash into the post. Why is the strikers toenail not allowed to be past the last man without being offside? It is surely impossible for the striker to know exactly all of their body is onside when they are moving at speed without starting their run well in front of the defender. What happened to the rule about handball having to be deliberate? In the City game today the ball brushed Laporte's arm it was clearly unintentional. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted August 17, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted August 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: I've advocated having any handball penalised in the past, but I think I can already see that's wrong. Wolves goal last week and now this, it's stupid. I like it. Makes things black and white. Anything that removes a grey area from football is better imo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted August 17, 2019 Author VT Supporter Share Posted August 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, PieFacE said: I like it. Makes things black and white. Anything that removes a grey area from football is better imo. I thought it would be the same but there's no way those two goals I mentioned shouldn't stand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanBalaban Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 Had it have been Kane's hand the ball brushed and then cleared, as he and Laporte were challenging together, would a penalty have to be awarded? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted August 17, 2019 Author VT Supporter Share Posted August 17, 2019 8 minutes ago, villadodo said: Why is the goalkeeper not allowed to stray a millimetre off their goal line? If they dive straight along the line they will crash into the post. That's not the rule. They can take a step forward or dive forward, just not until the ball's been kicked. It's actually been the rule for a long time, it's just been poorly enforced 9 minutes ago, villadodo said: What happened to the rule about handball having to be deliberate? In the City game today the ball brushed Laporte's arm it was clearly unintentional. The "deliberate" part of the handball rule is stupid. Handballs are very very rarely deliberate. If a defender stands on the line and stops the ball going in accidentally with his arm that should still be penalised. I liked the idea of any handball being penalised, deliberate or not. But I'm not so sure after the last couple of weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 The handball rule changed this summer "deliberate" "intentional" are both now irrelevant in scoring a goal, its an automatic foul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chappy Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 Our potential pen for Wes today (I was interested in a pen shout real time);VAR checked and ruled no pen. Bloke in front of me without any hint of sarcasm: “I’ll have to see that on MOTD, VAR probs a blues fan” 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 (edited) 31 minutes ago, StanBalaban said: Had it have been Kane's hand the ball brushed and then cleared, as he and Laporte were challenging together, would a penalty have to be awarded? no, as it didn’t directly score or lead to a goal, and it wasn’t in an unnatural position. They’ve tried to improve the rules and made them just as, or more, annoying. Actually, in that situation according to the new law - if the ball hit Kane’s arm by his side, then Laporte’s, then dropped to Jesus who scores, it’s no goal and no penalty. Stupid. Edited August 17, 2019 by a m ole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Villaphan04 said: woah boy get ready City done by this again In the 90th minute vs Spurs at Etihad again #conspiracy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted August 17, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted August 17, 2019 The handball rule is stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djdabush Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 I realised today that it's had the side effect of creating a completely new feeling for me, something along the lines of 'VAR desperation' where even though the pen was right in front of me and was stonewall, there was a small part of me which was hoping VAR would check it and somehow overturn it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villarule123 Posted August 17, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted August 17, 2019 I hate it 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 1 hour ago, djdabush said: I realised today that it's had the side effect of creating a completely new feeling for me, something along the lines of 'VAR desperation' where even though the pen was right in front of me and was stonewall, there was a small part of me which was hoping VAR would check it and somehow overturn it. We have "provisional" goals now. Provisional pens, provisional red cards. Its shit. I hate it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 3 hours ago, villa4europe said: The handball rule changed this summer "deliberate" "intentional" are both now irrelevant in scoring a goal, its an automatic foul How come the handball in the Super Cup wasnt given? Not being clever, genuinely wondering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 Dont know My understanding of the rule was that it applied if the ball went in direct from the offense (so it went in off laportes arm, like Rodriguez vs us) which I think is fair enough but the way its being applied is bollocks, that's a shit decision It is however the hand ball rule that's ****, VAR is just the tool that let's them see it, Jason cundy was on twitter last night calling it the new VAR handball rule, there's no such thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 It's "OK" for defenders if the ball brushes their arm, but not OK for attackers. Having different handball rules depending on which side of the pitch you are is beyond retarded. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacketspuds Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 It's ridiculous. It seems that the Man City VAR decision is getting all of the headlines, when actually it was probably more of a correct decision than the Billing 2nd yellow. Even Eddie Howe knew it by taking him off at half-time. The worst thing is that Billing would've been given a 2nd yellow by the ref if he made that tackle against a Top 6 player, and VAR would not have corrected the decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 The 2nd yellow thing for us is a case of VAR will never ever stop a shit ref from being shit 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 I thought the VAR penalty referrals in our game were rather fun, after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted August 18, 2019 Author VT Supporter Share Posted August 18, 2019 3 hours ago, villa4europe said: Dont know My understanding of the rule was that it applied if the ball went in direct from the offense (so it went in off laportes arm, like Rodriguez vs us) which I think is fair enough but the way its being applied is bollocks, that's a shit decision It is however the hand ball rule that's ****, VAR is just the tool that let's them see it, Jason cundy was on twitter last night calling it the new VAR handball rule, there's no such thing Yep. VAR is doing a superb job in that respect because it’s spotting all these handballs. The problem is the new rule is shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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