Sam-AVFC Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 4 hours ago, fightoffyour said: Bring out referee tablets was my idea when the monitors argument first came up. A well designed holder on their back or chest wouldn't be obtrusive and would save the time required to go to the side of the pitch that seems to be such a big deal. Obviously use the monitor then if the free WiFi isn't connecting. I’d never thought of this but seems an easy to implement sensible suggestion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 the 1st disallowed goal is just as bad though more to do with the stupid rule Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 It doesn't matter what happens or what changes, the situation will always be dire because the officials just aren't very good. Even if we exclusively used the monitors, would you put it past a PL ref to not also inconsistently call the 2 handball cases in the Leicester - Man City game? That needs to be the first thing to improve as well as an overhaul of the rules to remove all the unnecessary ambiguity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 15 hours ago, Keyblade said: It doesn't matter what happens or what changes, the situation will always be dire because the officials just aren't very good. Even if we exclusively used the monitors, would you put it past a PL ref to not also inconsistently call the 2 handball cases in the Leicester - Man City game? That needs to be the first thing to improve as well as an overhaul of the rules to remove all the unnecessary ambiguity. Pre-this season as football fans we'd accept the ref giving 1 and not the other due to a degree of human error. Maybe he didn't see it right, bad positioning etc. This is life. Win some, lose some. With VAR we expect that to have gone away, the human error in the split second heat of the moment should be all but eradicated. But it isn't, we still seem to be see bad calls, inconsistent calls, confusing calls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mic09 Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 The most disgusting decision of the year came in on Saturday with Leicester not being awarded a penalty after Ederson absolutely destroyed their player mid air without even coming close to the ball. In what world and under what rules is that not a penalty? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 5 minutes ago, Mic09 said: The most disgusting decision of the year came in on Saturday with Leicester not being awarded a penalty after Ederson absolutely destroyed their player mid air without even coming close to the ball. In what world and under what rules is that not a penalty? Still think the Aaron Ramsdale punch in the face on Engels is the worst. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mic09 Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 12 minutes ago, sne said: Still think the Aaron Ramsdale punch in the face on Engels is the worst. We should have a poll at the end of the season haha! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 its not VAR but I still think the grealish dive is the worst out of the lot it wasn't a dive, there is contact from 2 players he didn't even play for a free kick, he carried on and played the ball, after cahill clattered him he got straight back up cahill dives backwards following the contact that apparently didn't happen, cahill made more of a meal out of it than jack everything about it stinks and still riles me, the ref gave himself no time to think about it, blew his whistle rather than let VAR sort it out, its genuinely one of the worst decisions I've ever seen, a decision that wasn't inept it was downright prejudiced, friend had made his mind up before the play even unfolded I think because we've been so poor and VAR has been so poor that when the dust settles on the season no one can complain about VAR and ref decisions but a point vs palace followed by 3 points 2 games later vs arsenal and our season looks very different (and that's before you throw in the McGinn penalty vs spurs) 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blunther Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 On 24/02/2020 at 13:02, delboy54 said: Seriously considering the fact that if we stay up then I may not renew my season ticket. Totally fed up with VAR's as well as the consistently incompetent level of refereeing. I thought it was bad in the Championship but the standard of refereeing in this league is dreadful. VAR is killing the enjoyment I get out of a game if we score its a half arsed celebration. Its all come down to the pixel resolution on some blokes computer monitor in a shed somewhere...totally ruined the game for me. Rant over Regards to all Derek Same here. I'm certainly coming if we're in the Championship. Yet to decide if we stay up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blunther Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 5 minutes ago, villa4europe said: friend had made his mind up before the play even unfolded It's not the first time Friend has been demonstrably bent when refereeing a match of ours. He's a crook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 40 minutes ago, sne said: Still think the Aaron Ramsdale punch in the face on Engels is the worst. I agree. I can't think of a single reason why a player can be punched in the head and it not be a foul. Keeper missed the ball and punched him in the face. A player misses the ball with his foot and takes out the opponent is always a foul. The mind boggles. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 10 minutes ago, Genie said: I agree. I can't think of a single reason why a player can be punched in the head and it not be a foul. Keeper missed the ball and punched him in the face. A player misses the ball with his foot and takes out the opponent is always a foul. The mind boggles. I remember Guzan smashed little Dyer from Leicester in the infamous Sherwood game. He concussed him and should have got a straight red. Nothing given Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Zatman said: I remember Guzan smashed little Dyer from Leicester in the infamous Sherwood game. He concussed him and should have got a straight red. Nothing given Goalkeepers have pretty much free rein to do anything except handle the ball outside the box it seems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted February 25, 2020 Author VT Supporter Share Posted February 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Genie said: I agree. I can't think of a single reason why a player can be punched in the head and it not be a foul. Keeper missed the ball and punched him in the face. A player misses the ball with his foot and takes out the opponent is always a foul. The mind boggles. Unless the opponent is a goalkeeper. The rules (or how they're applied) around keepers are weird. They're over protected in the air and underprotected on the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, Stevo985 said: Unless the opponent is a goalkeeper. The rules (or how they're applied) around keepers are weird. They're over protected in the air and underprotected on the ground. When impeding the keeper I agree they should get a bit more protection, but this was the keeper punching the attacker in the head after he’d failed to get to the ball Edited February 25, 2020 by Genie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted February 25, 2020 Author VT Supporter Share Posted February 25, 2020 27 minutes ago, Genie said: When impeding the keeper I agree they should get a bit more protection, but this was the keeper punching the attacker in the head after he’d failed to get to the ball Oh I know, I wasn't disagreeing. That's what I mean by they're protected in the air. When the ball is in the air the keeper seems to be able to do anything and if you dare touch him it's a foul. But when the ball is on the ground it's the opposite. Attackers seem to be able to lunge in because "the ball is there to be won". Which doesn't apply to any other player on the pitch. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 On 24/02/2020 at 09:07, Zatman said: I was at San Siro few weeks back. Ref gave a yellow card, went to monitor and gave a red card. Took less than a minute On a separate topic, is it easy to get tickets? I want to go before it closes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 27 minutes ago, mikeyp102 said: On a separate topic, is it easy to get tickets? I want to go before it closes I got them from a friend but was lots of empty seats to the sides. Well worth the trip 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farlz Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Look how quickly the red card was sorted in the Chelsea game tonight because the ref went over and used the monitor. The big problem we have in the Prem is that every single English referee is a shambles and until they're all sacked off VAR will remain a mess. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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