PaulC Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 After the one in the first half which Leicester should have had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 VAR disallow a Zlatan goal for nothing. Bullshit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 25 minutes ago, Zatman said: VAR disallow a Zlatan goal for nothing. Bullshit New handball rule is a bit utterly useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 Milan now concede a nothing penalty. Still given by VAR. Burn it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 One thing I noticed yesterday was the frame VAR were looking at in the booth and the actual pass made yesterday for City's goal against Leicester are two totally different frames. Hard to explain it but if you watch the goal and see the replays VAR look at, it looks well onside but it was actually much closer than that when the pass was played. Just seems strange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hornso Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 On 23/02/2020 at 02:09, fightoffyour said: Who VARs the VAR men? I dunno, Coast Guard? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 Was watching a Serie A match, can't remember which one, where the ref actually made his way to a monitor and reversed his own decision. So simple but so much better than what we have where some tipsy guy in a room is messing up and ruining games. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 I don't understand why we don't do the monitor thing. That was always my impression of what VAR was when it started in the world cup. Surely there should be uniform rules across the board for the application of VAR? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted February 24, 2020 Author VT Supporter Share Posted February 24, 2020 5 minutes ago, Wainy316 said: I don't understand why we don't do the monitor thing. That was always my impression of what VAR was when it started in the world cup. Surely there should be uniform rules across the board for the application of VAR? I think they were trying to cut down the time it takes. But it's **** stupid. It takes the same amount of time, and all it does is adds another official into the decision making so you get inconsistencies all over the place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 8 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: I think they were trying to cut down the time it takes. But it's **** stupid. It takes the same amount of time, and all it does is adds another official into the decision making so you get inconsistencies all over the place. It's barmy. How long does it actually take for a ref to run to the monitor? Then surely it takes the same amount of time to make the decision, if not less because the ref himself knows why he gave a certain decision and what evidence he needs to overturn it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted February 24, 2020 Author VT Supporter Share Posted February 24, 2020 1 minute ago, sharkyvilla said: It's barmy. How long does it actually take for a ref to run to the monitor? Then surely it takes the same amount of time to make the decision, if not less because the ref himself knows why he gave a certain decision and what evidence he needs to overturn it. Exactly! The ref knows, for example, "I didn't give that because the player got the ball" so he knows exactly what he's looking for when he sees it. If he sees there was contact then he overturns it. If it confirms what he saw in the first place it doesn't. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 15 minutes ago, sharkyvilla said: It's barmy. How long does it actually take for a ref to run to the monitor? Then surely it takes the same amount of time to make the decision, if not less because the ref himself knows why he gave a certain decision and what evidence he needs to overturn it. I was at San Siro few weeks back. Ref gave a yellow card, went to monitor and gave a red card. Took less than a minute 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 One thing I don't get is why do they have to wait until the ball goes out of play to stop and review the situations since the ref on the pitch doesn't watch the video anyway? If it is a penalty or whatever just tell the ref and get on with it. If it's not then don't stop play and have the ref standing there like a moron in the middle of the pitch not watching the important video of the situation while the VAR guy does his job for him. Just have the actual ref watch the video ffs, at least then he is accountable for any right or wrong call made. The extra 15 seconds it would take for him to run over to the monitor should not be an issue. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, sne said: One thing I don't get is why do they have to wait until the ball goes out of play to stop and review the situations since the ref on the pitch doesn't watch the video anyway? If it is a penalty or whatever just tell the ref and get on with it. If it's not then don't stop play and have the ref standing there like a moron in the middle of the pitch not watching the important video of the situation while the VAR guy does his job for him. Just have the actual ref watch the video ffs, at least then he is accountable for any right or wrong call made. The extra 15 seconds it would take for him to run over to the monitor should not be an issue. The u-turn that screwed Bournemouth. They think they've equalised, instead it's 2-0. Sickening really. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightoffyour Posted February 24, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted February 24, 2020 Bring out referee tablets was my idea when the monitors argument first came up. A well designed holder on their back or chest wouldn't be obtrusive and would save the time required to go to the side of the pitch that seems to be such a big deal. Obviously use the monitor then if the free WiFi isn't connecting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightoffyour Posted February 24, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted February 24, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, StefanAVFC said: The u-turn that screwed Bournemouth. They think they've equalised, instead it's 2-0. Sickening really. It was only a matter of time before this exact scenario played out! If the VAR is on the ball, and while the refs aren't using monitors, then they should make their decision during play and possibly prevent it. Haven't seen the decisions to comment if it was the correct outcome, but yes still heartbreaking in any case. Edited February 24, 2020 by fightoffyour 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 The only thing more shocking about the Bournemouth goal is that it didnt already happen to Villa 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, fightoffyour said: It was only a matter of time before this exact scenario played out! If the VAR is on the ball, and while the refs aren't using monitors, then they should make their decision during play and possibly prevent it. Haven't seen the decisions to comment if it was the correct outcome, but yes still heartbreaking in any case. It was a real grey area handball. Hit the exact spot between top of the arm/shoulder. I, begrudgingly, would have stuck with the original decision made by ref/lino. (no handball) Less of a handball that Sokratis against us mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delboy54 Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 Seriously considering the fact that if we stay up then I may not renew my season ticket. Totally fed up with VAR's as well as the consistently incompetent level of refereeing. I thought it was bad in the Championship but the standard of refereeing in this league is dreadful. VAR is killing the enjoyment I get out of a game if we score its a half arsed celebration. Its all come down to the pixel resolution on some blokes computer monitor in a shed somewhere...totally ruined the game for me. Rant over Regards to all Derek 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 (edited) I'm terrified some huge VAR c0ckup is gonna play a part in who goes down on the last day. It could be us getting it. Edited February 24, 2020 by Genie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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