Lichfield Dean Posted December 5, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted December 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, Keyblade said: That's on them tbf. Play to the whistle. They only have themselves to blame. They got outwitted by Jonjo Shelvey. This is of course true, and you'd think the players would know better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightoffyour Posted December 5, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted December 5, 2019 (edited) What’s actually the point of linesmen now? ”I’ll raise my flag if I think it’s offside but don’t stop playing because if it’s not actually offside then I’ll be overruled anyway. If I don’t raise my flag and it is offside (to sub-atomic accuracy) then it will be given eventually.” Edited December 5, 2019 by fightoffyour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, fightoffyour said: What’s actually the point of linesmen now? ”I’ll raise my flag if I think it’s offside but don’t stop playing because if it’s not actually offside then I’ll be overruled anyway.” Still can make calls on fouls and handballs that the referees miss, and there are plenty of offside calls they make that don't directly lead to goals. Edited December 5, 2019 by Keyblade 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 Just took about 2-3 minutes to decide to rule out the Luis goal that had about 4 players clearly offside. Come on. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightoffyour Posted December 5, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted December 5, 2019 The opposite just happened in the Arsenal match. David Luiz was 2 days offside and the linesman didn’t flag, VAR still took a ridiculous amount of time to overturn the decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 It was such an easy call too. The eye test should be more than enough for the VAR checks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pelle Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 Was about to say that the linesman in the arsenal game must've been blind, but the I thought that maybe he was told not to raise the flag for offside in such a situation. But still, that was a clear offside. Upon that the replay showed that though it was a freekick he didn't stand in line with the defenders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 1 minute ago, fightoffyour said: The opposite just happened in the Arsenal match. David Luiz was 2 days offside and the linesman didn’t flag, VAR still took a ridiculous amount of time to overturn the decision. Clearly the better outcome, but they need to not **** about so much with these ones that are absolutely blatant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan-scott Posted December 5, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted December 5, 2019 21 minutes ago, Keyblade said: That's on them tbf. Play to the whistle. They only have themselves to blame. They got outwitted by Jonjo Shelvey. Oh yes, I agree 100%. It is a major cock up by the Sheff Utd players. I meant Wilder will be fuming with his players. His comments should be interesting, he doesn’t usually hold back! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightoffyour Posted December 5, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted December 5, 2019 Just now, Davkaus said: Clearly the better outcome, but they need to not **** about so much with these ones that are absolutely blatant. Oh for sure, but we’ll never know with those ones if the linesman would’ve given it himself had they not been instructed to be “lenient” with flagging. You’d have to hope so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 1 minute ago, Davkaus said: Clearly the better outcome, but they need to not **** about so much with these ones that are absolutely blatant. I think they're scared of ultimately getting the call wrong. People are just waiting to pounce on it, imagine if they got a simple offside call wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 What will happen at the end of the season a relegated team or maybe 2 will tally up the mistakes made by VAR and sue the Premier League Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 9 minutes ago, Zatman said: What will happen at the end of the season a relegated team or maybe 2 will tally up the mistakes made by VAR and sue the Premier League Nothing, just same as refereeing mistakes pre this season. Shit will hit the fan last day of the season if there’s controversy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicVillan Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 Might as well just put up with the odd ref cock up instead of VAR 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Sampdoria scored a rebounded penalty, VAR ruled interference. Result is free out. Football is **** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightoffyour Posted December 9, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted December 9, 2019 Bit quiet in here so I thought I'd stop by for a bit of balance and say it seems like VAR did a pretty good job in the Premier League this weekend. Can't remember all the specifics anymore since it's now Monday morning, but they seemed to make the right calls, e.g. Rashford penalty and a few soft handballs in that one waved away. Targett should've been sent off for us though. I presume there can't be retrospective bans for missed incidents anymore? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenjiOgiwara Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 Have to say I dislike VAR, but being a referee in the PL atm. must be very difficult when you see the pace the game is played and how everything are about fine margins. Always thought referees are having a shit job. If you're poor or unfortunate everyone thinks you're shite. If you do a good job nobody mentions you. Like our rating threads for instance. I wonder how many times a referee has gotten a good rating. Can't be a lot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 1 hour ago, KenjiOgiwara said: Have to say I dislike VAR, but being a referee in the PL atm. must be very difficult when you see the pace the game is played and how everything are about fine margins. Always thought referees are having a shit job. If you're poor or unfortunate everyone thinks you're shite. If you do a good job nobody mentions you. Like our rating threads for instance. I wonder how many times a referee has gotten a good rating. Can't be a lot. that's my big issue with it the athletes play quicker than the ref can cope with so we need technology, no one is looking at martin Atkinson being 48 and having no where near the support team that the athletes get, of course he's going to be behind them in terms of pace anyone who's over the age of 30 and played vs guys in their early 20s will know what I mean, and its not necessarily purely a fitness thing, its an acceleration, speed, sharpness and anticipation thing too I think the youngest PL ref is Michael Oliver, 35 in feb its another one of those where you hear the stories of the tiny % of teenage footballers "making it" how many of them are offered reffing as a viable alternative? (not sure if the demands there to be fair) who scouts refs? how many of them aren't being spotted as a talent until they've done it for 10-15 years meaning they're always going to be older Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightoffyour Posted December 14, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted December 14, 2019 Nonsense VAR check on Liverpool’s 2nd goal. Anyone with an ounce of common sense wouldn’t have even needed a replay, yet there they are drawing bloody lines again. Correct decision reached but what a faff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 How is that not given a foul but Welsey’s was? This is supposed to bring consistency. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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