Vive_La_Villa Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 37 minutes ago, avfcDJ said: What’s this? Please don’t tell me that goal was disallowed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 Yep, Burnley player tripped Evans stopping him from clearing it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 If we don't get better officials, it should be scrapped. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 VAR is the worst idea ever, if football is the beautiful game why do they need to copy other sports Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 I certainly can't see how they could possibly have introduced VAR any worse than they have. The only logical thing I can think of is that they are deliberately sabotaging it so it gets scrapped for next season. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 I’m eager to watch Motd to see them discuss theses decisions. Maybe the controversy is increasing viewing numbers? Some of the decisions just make no sense. It’s almost like if a ref has missed the chance to make a poor decisions than VAR is helping them out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, sharkyvilla said: I certainly can't see how they could possibly have introduced VAR any worse than they have. The only logical thing I can think of is that they are deliberately sabotaging it so it gets scrapped for next season. It does feel like there is something sinister going on but it probably just boils down to shit refs with a replay to view. Edited October 19, 2019 by Vive_La_Villa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post terrytini Posted October 19, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 19, 2019 VAR is an absolute shambles. Before it arrived my concern was it might give TV viewers some fun but would be dreadful for actual spectators, and so it is. Celebrating a goal is the ultimate buzz at a football match. It was always tough if you started to celebrate then glanced over at the Offside flag - but you had the opportunity to do just that. This, is nothing like that. Ive yet to talk to a single fan at a game who doesn’t want it scrapped. Take today. Their goalie doesn’t appeal. The defenders don’t. The Ref and Lino give nothing. Not a single fan was worried. The players, on both sides, thought it a goal. So, where ( regardless of whether you think there WAS a foul) was the Clear And Obvious Error ? There wasn’t one. And I’ve rarely seen such anger from fans. We aren’t paying £500 a year to wait for a guy on an industrial estate to tell us what we’ve seen. 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 1 hour ago, DJ_Villain said: Its fit for purpose... but because its used at the refs discretion and the fact that the ref has the final say regardless of the VAR call... Its a farce... Nah, can’t agree. People can’t keep saying it’s fine in theory when it’s crap in practice. Its a complete shambles. It was always debatable whether it actually WAS ever that crucial to get everything “ right”.....but this doesn’t tackle everything, it’s clearly used arbitrarily, it’s unaccountable, it’s inconsistent, it’s hugely unpopular ( not sure I’ve ever heard a louder chant than against it today). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 The biggest cheer at VP today was the Brighton restart, that says it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 It has some huge problems. Firstly, you don't have a discussion. It's a bloke in London (or wherever he is) overruling the ref (often more senior) Secondly, it is easier to strike goals off than let them stand. I read something that VAR has only made 1 'positive' decision all season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 Villa v Brighton Palace v City 2 massive VAR decisions not mentioned once on MOTD. Now I'm not one for conspiracy theories but really? Not one mention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 3 minutes ago, av1 said: Villa v Brighton Palace v City 2 massive VAR decisions not mentioned once on MOTD. Now I'm not one for conspiracy theories but really? Not one mention. Honestly, I think it's because there are so many shit VAR decisions that they simply don't want shows hijacked by the discussion, which just goes to show ineffectually it has been implemented. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 I understand why they haven’t given some penalties as if you’re not 100% sure you can’t give it. But how the f**k can the Var have been sure that was a foul on the keeper?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 Just saw the Watford penalty shout. Shambles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danceoftheshamen Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 Was at the game again today, VAR is a disgrace quite frankly! To prevent ruining the game completely they either need to sort out the muppets who are in charge of it & clearly have no clue what they're doing or get rid of it. That is now incredibly the Eighth time this season we have fallen foul of it from what i've seen. 1. Spurs (a) we had a couple of incidents which went against us and were shown afterwards to have been incorrect. 2. Palace away disallowed goal which was proven to be incorrect on MOTD 3. Arsenal away.. where do you start?! The Hand ball incident (not given) & two of their players stood within 1m of our wall (one of them actually in the wall) at a free kick which should have been a disallowed goal for them but of course VAR don't intervene even though it's a clear & obvious error when a goal is scored. . 4. Norwich (a) Player stamped on our player.. not given. 5. Burnley (h) Goal disallowed for a ridiculous offside 6. Brighton (h) Goal incorrectly disallowed as at best the decision was objective yet they still disallow it. So we have in my eyes lost at least 4 points in that little lot because of VAR being incorrectly used. Oh & by the way ... unless you folks saw something i didn't, we have zero decisions in our favour! That is just downright suspicious if you ask me. I wonder how many bad VAR decisions Liverpool have had for & against? So to summise VAR & Villa For 0 Against 8 One can only say ....... That's Dodgy. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 11 hours ago, DJ_Villain said: Its fit for purpose... but because its used at the refs discretion and the fact that the ref has the final say regardless of the VAR call... Its a farce... It should be the managers decision to request a VAR call (like in cricket or NFL)... a limited number of VAR calls per match and if a call is successful, you dont lose one (badly explained but I hope you know what i am getting at)... and the decision made by VAR should be final... It's not. You cannot divorce VAR from it's implementation, they go hand in hand. It's current implementation is not fit for purpose therefore VAR is not fit for purpose. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 4 hours ago, danceoftheshamen said: 1. Spurs (a) we had a couple of incidents which went against us and were shown afterwards to have been incorrect. The only one I thought was legit was the McGinn penalty 3. Arsenal away.. where do you start?! The Hand ball incident (not given) & two of their players stood within 1m of our wall (one of them actually in the wall) at a free kick which should have been a disallowed goal for them but of course VAR don't intervene even though it's a clear & obvious error when a goal is scored. . Their players encroached on the penalty too, should have been retaken 4. Norwich (a) Player stamped on our player.. not given. Can’t even remember that 5. Burnley (h) Goal disallowed for a ridiculous offside is that the one where it was played in from the left? Think it was hourihane, he was miles off That doesn’t allow for yesterday Montoya being the 2nd player this season that’s had to be subbed off against us because whilst on a booking his foul count is taking the piss we have shit refs how can you have the ref in the spurs game overruling VAR but then in our game VAR overruling the ref? He saw Wes jump with the keeper and saw nothing wrong with it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted October 20, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted October 20, 2019 Yesterday was my first experience of VAR at a game and it truly is shocking for the fans in the ground. Still have no idea why the goal was disallowed yesterday. Then on the following 2 goals we scored I felt like I couldn't fully celebrate till after they had kicked off. The whole thing is shit. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 Not being able to enjoy football is apparently an integral part of the modern game. I'm just too old fashioned to get it. Fans in the stands are just a nuisance at this point as far as top brass football is concerned. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts