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1 hour ago, bobzy said:

They've (including most England managers) campaigned for a winter break for ages - it finally gets introduced and the FA goes "no, **** that, you're playing a replay lads"?  Teams will have planned for it, weeks in advance, and then it just gets chucked out.  It's an utter farce. 

He's completely correct - and don't even get me started on cup replays.

Cup replays can be the difference between a club surviving and going bust, football is not just about the elite.

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12 minutes ago, bannedfromHandV said:

Cup replays can be the difference between a club surviving and going bust, football is not just about the elite.

Yes, they can.

 

But then, so can cup ties when they're decided on the night.

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54 minutes ago, Genie said:

Have to say, having a window of potential games in a winter break is just stupid.

I think Klopp has a bit of a point and he’s shining a huge spotlight on the planning team at the FA’s f**kup. 
 

In an ideal world winter break would be after 1st Jan games or 3rd round weekend. Could have a 10 day break at least to recover from the xmas madness of games.

February is an odd time to have it really. You could even put it in December and then restart for Boxing day although I guess premier league are worried bad weather would hit so would leave a ridiculous fixture pile up (although of course it could just hit in Feb like the other year).

I do actually like the split weekend thing but again it seems the wrong time given a few of the teams also have european games in the period.

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10 hours ago, VillaChris said:

FA cup 5th round isn't until March 4th or something. Why can't Liverpool play Shrewsbury replay after their two week break?

Because February is **** ridiculous for EFL sides - I think they're all due to play 7 league games plus cup replays.  They can't squeeze the replays at the end of the month; they have to use the start.

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11 hours ago, bobzy said:

Because February is **** ridiculous for EFL sides - I think they're all due to play 7 league games plus cup replays.  They can't squeeze the replays at the end of the month; they have to use the start.

Just had a look and you're right, Shrews playing midweek on week starting 24th Feb which is when I'd have put it. Ironically Shrewsbury's only free midweek in the month is when Liverpool are playing CL.

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9 hours ago, sne said:

So many fantastic little details and pokes at Plop and City :D  David Squires is my favorite thing right now.

"The FA Cup -  Giving Joe Hart Something To Do" :crylaugh:

https://www.theguardian.com/football/ng-interactive/2020/jan/28/david-squires-on-football-fixture-wars-fa-cup-carabao-liverpool-manchester-city

Grab his books if you haven't already. Had me in stitches.

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Absolute weapons He has kids FFS.

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The Cheshire home of Manchester United executive vice-chairman Ed Woodward has been attacked by a group chanting that he was "going to die".

A video posted on social media showed an individual throwing a red flare over a large gate, while others sang songs aimed at the 48-year-old.

Woodward, who is married with two young children, was not present at the time.

 

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“We don’t want too many Leicester Citys.”

These were the words spoken by a senior figure from the Premier League’s ‘big six’ clubs, in the kind of high-end London hotel you can easily imagine.

Be a bit rich if this was Daniel Levy 😂

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14 minutes ago, Zatman said:

Maybe not the right thread but Burnley spent 15 million on Ben Gibson 18 months ago. Has played less than 10 games and is now training somewhere else 😂

Easy to think it's only us that does those type of signings but every club and every manager has their fair share of them.

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4 minutes ago, sne said:

Easy to think it's only us that does those type of signings but every club and every manager has their fair share of them.

Incredibly we got more value for money from McCormack and Tsihbola 😂

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Not really sure where to put this but...

Scottish League Cup Semi final. Cally Thistle player, already on a yellow (I think) gets fouled blatantly but the ref gives a dive and books him. This means the player will miss the final. Cally Thistle appeal asking for the video evidence to be reviewed, which clearly show contact, and enough contact to knock the guy flying.

Scottish FA refuse.

The whole saga is pathetic. Officiating in the UK is at a real low.

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Following the decision by the 3 man Fast Track Tribunal Panel to dismiss the club appeal against the yellow card awarded to James Keatings by referee Greg Aitken during Sunday’s Tunnock’s Caramel Wafer Cup Semi-Final, the club has no option but to speak out publicly on behalf of our player and on behalf of the growing number of Scottish football clubs who believe that the SFA disciplinary process is not fit for purpose.

In relation to the inexplicable decision to dismiss our appeal this morning, one which will see James miss the Cup Final, we would like to communicate with our support and to the many people who have contacted James and the club since Sunday. 

Our appeal was submitted on Monday morning with our payment for the right to appeal and video evidence of 3 different angles of the incident, with the most enlightening angle shown at full speed and also in slow motion. The referee also submitted his reply to the appeal and within that, he states that from his angle, he believed there had been no contact made by the defender on James and this led him to believe that James had thrown himself to the ground in an attempt to deceive him, therefore he deemed it to be an act of simulation, hence the decision. 

We do not want to question anyone’s integrity in this statement and therefore if we set what we do or do not believe aside, it could certainly be argued that this position is plausible.  The video evidence however removes all doubt from the situation and it was this evidence with which we confidently based our case on. As far as we were concerned, once the 3 man panel viewed the video evidence, coupled with the fact that the referee himself was stating that he only made the decision based on his personal view, albeit that he was only a few yards away and not the vastly superior and different video angles, justice and sporting integrity would surely prevail. 

James Keatings has never been booked for simulation in his entire career and Sunday’s red card was also the first in his career. The player himself was devastated by the decision on Sunday and has been contacted by many players, ex-players, the PFA and multiple journalists and friends, all of whom believed that justice would be done by the panel. This scenario represented the exact situation that these protocols were set up to address. 

When the club was given the news this morning that the appeal had not only be dismissed but that James had in fact been adjudged to have committed simulation, we were both incredulous and furious in equal measure. We would once again re-iterate that we do not want to call into question anyone’s integrity with this statement but we must call into question the actual football knowledge of those sitting in judgement on all Scottish football players under this current system. If the individuals involved in this morning’s Tribunal can watch the footage we supplied, footage which the whole of Scottish football has now seen and call this simulation, then there can be no other conclusion other than they do not understand football or the rules of the game. As harsh as this sounds, there can be no other conclusion. Fans and officials of all clubs are mystified by this decision. 

This decision has cost our player the chance to play in a national Cup Final, not something that comes along every week, to the detriment of the player, his team mates, the club and our fans. We believe it also damages the credibility of our governing body and brings the game into disrepute. The decision is plainly wrong and the dogs in the street know this. We have no right to appeal this final decision and it is painful to accept. 

As a club we have been contacted by Chairmen, Chief Executives, Directors and fans of other clubs today in a completely unique show of support and solidarity with James Keatings and ICTFC. As appreciated as this has been undoubtedly been, it does not change the fact that there is clearly something wrong with the system, if it is not addressed, we are all responsible for the continuing denigration of our standards, our supporters view of the national game and sporting integrity in Scottish football. 

https://ictfc.com/club-statement-9

Here it is:

 

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