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On 30/12/2020 at 19:15, Genie said:

I managed to get the children a brand new 6s each for Christmas. They run the latest OS perfectly, 3.5mm port still present, 100% battery life. Why spend more? 

Security updates, future iOS updates, apps requiring more processing power. Battery degradation. You don’t need the latest or greatest but the 6s is 5 and a half years old phone. I think you’ll hit a point really quite soon where it won’t get updated and be left behind. If it’s just for calls, WhatsApp and YouTube then it should be fine.

For me I film a lot on my phone so the advancements in things like image stabilisation and picture quality is great from even just a few years ago. I had a 7 which was great at the time but I now have a base 11 which is better and even the jump from my phone to a 12 pro is huge in terms of camera and video. 

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25 minutes ago, Ingram85 said:

If it’s just for calls, WhatsApp and YouTube then it should be fine.

Yeah, this is all they are using them for. WhatsApp, Roblox, football scores, YouTube.

They’ve been great. Not had a single complaint since Christmas and they’ve been heavily used by both of them.

They still get all the updates. Obviously I’ll have to cross the bridge when I come to it when Apple stop pushing the new security updates out. For the money though (£120 each I think) they’ve been fantastic purchases. I still can’t believe at the end of 2020 there will still new, sealed handsets about. Like chalk and cheese with the other Android handsets I used to buy them. They would always get laggy and slow (and then the moaning comes).

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3 hours ago, av1 said:

I've never owned a apple product, is it easy to completely switch from Android/windows? 

It is pretty easy (as is also the case the other way), because the companies want to be able to tempt people over to their product.

The level of hassle (in my experience) revolves around the specialist things you might do on your current kit - if you have apps or software for doing a specific thing, that need to do. SO if it's just basic phone calls, e mails, browsing, watching, listening twitter facebooks etc then it's easy. If you've got some, I dunno, mathematical modelling or video editing or specialist software, research the options for the new platform.

It takes a little while to get used to slightly different ways of doing some things - you'll find (whichever way you switch) some neat tricks that you can't do on the old platform, and some tricks that are not as easy.

My personal view is that Apple kit is generally more expensive, generally better made and designed and generally easier to use. One downside, Apple has this habit of removing things, (usually others later do the same) but it leaves problems - like headphone sockets going from phones, or USB A connectors from laptops (and previously CD drives, floppy drives etc.) So that often means paying extra for a dongle to connect up old legacy kit, which is annoying.

My preferences are just my preferences - they're not right or wrong, they're just personal to me.

It's worth searching the web for, like "how do I do this thing on a Mac" or iPhone equivalent of [Application]" for things you do or use before you leap.

Apple stuff integrates together really well - because they make it all - the hardware and software - compared to Microsoft/Android/Samsung (or whoever). But the downside is many people don't like the "walled Garden"  - where it works the way Apple determines it works, and that's that".

HTH 

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1 minute ago, blandy said:

It is pretty easy (as is also the case the other way), because the companies want to be able to tempt people over to their product.

The level of hassle (in my experience) revolves around the specialist things you might do on your current kit - if you have apps or software for doing a specific thing, that need to do. SO if it's just basic phone calls, e mails, browsing, watching, listening twitter facebooks etc then it's easy. If you've got some, I dunno, mathematical modelling or video editing or specialist software, research the options for the new platform.

It takes a little while to get used to slightly different ways of doing some things - you'll find (whichever way you switch) some neat tricks that you can't do on the old platform, and some tricks that are not as easy.

My personal view is that Apple kit is generally more expensive, generally better made and designed and generally easier to use. One downside, Apple has this habit of removing things, (usually others later do the same) but it leaves problems - like headphone sockets going from phones, or USB A connectors from laptops (and previously CD drives, floppy drives etc.) So that often means paying extra for a dongle to connect up old legacy kit, which is annoying.

My preferences are just my preferences - they're not right or wrong, they're just personal to me.

It's worth searching the web for, like "how do I do this thing on a Mac" or iPhone equivalent of [Application]" for things you do or use before you leap.

Apple stuff integrates together really well - because they make it all - the hardware and software - compared to Microsoft/Android/Samsung (or whoever). But the downside is many people don't like the "walled Garden"  - where it works the way Apple determines it works, and that's that".

HTH 

Thank you Blandy. I think I might jump over. I've just phoned EE to get some prices on my 2 phone shortlist of the pixel 5 and iPhone 12. Whilst the iPhone is £10pm more expensive, my missues has a blue light card which will give me a 20% discount, so that helps. 

I think overall I've started considering Apple because as I said above, I need a new laptop and I also want a smart watch, when I've googled best laptop/watch/phone etc Apple always seems to be in the reckoning, and I like the idea of having that integration between devices. 

 

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On thing to consider regarding laptop. Apple just went on a complete change to their own silicon (ARM-based) and leaving Intel and the x86-64 architecture. There might be some 1st generation iffiness and if you buy a previous gen one you might lose out on longevity as Apple will not prioritize it.

Most things are positive though and their emulation of old software is performing better than expected. Just be aware of it and I would personally not buy the old ones unless you need to run Windows on it via bootcamp.

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32 minutes ago, Tegis said:

On thing to consider regarding laptop. Apple just went on a complete change to their own silicon (ARM-based) and leaving Intel and the x86-64 architecture. There might be some 1st generation iffiness and if you buy a previous gen one you might lose out on longevity as Apple will not prioritize it.

Most things are positive though and their emulation of old software is performing better than expected. Just be aware of it and I would personally not buy the old ones unless you need to run Windows on it via bootcamp.

Thanks mate. Not only have I never had a apple product, I'm pretty crap with computers generally. 

This is the one I had my eye on, is this the old version you mentioned?

Apple MacBook Air (M1, 2020)

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6 minutes ago, av1 said:

Thanks mate. Not only have I never had a apple product, I'm pretty crap with computers generally. 

This is the one I had my eye on, is this the old version you mentioned?

Apple MacBook Air (M1, 2020)

That’s one of the new ones. Apple supports products for longer than most other companies, 6 or 7 years or longer. Tegis is right, but it’s not something I’d worry about. If you buy an intel one, it’ll still be supported with updates etc in 6 years time. If you buy an M1 chip one, any issues will get sorted.

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4 minutes ago, blandy said:

That’s one of the new ones. Apple supports products for longer than most other companies, 6 or 7 years or longer. Tegis is right, but it’s not something I’d worry about. If you buy an intel one, it’ll still be supported with updates etc in 6 years time. If you buy an M1 chip one, any issues will get sorted.

Thanks. That one looks like a fair deal. It's not bloody cheap but I guess most decent Windows machines will be around that price point. 

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6 minutes ago, av1 said:

Thanks. That one looks like a fair deal. It's not bloody cheap but I guess most decent Windows machines will be around that price point. 

If you want a new one for less, it’s worth checking Apple’s refurb store. Items that get returned because the buyer changed their mind, or because of whatever are put back to brand new condition by Apple and then sold for less. I got my current one through that, having decided to avoid eBay if at all possible.

https://www.apple.com/uk/shop/refurbished/mac

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@av1 I've had Apple products for years and they 'just work'. I'm no fanboy, in fact I find that concept really weird.

I've got an iPhone 6S, so thats about 5 years old and an iPad 4th generation, which is about 8 years old. My Macbook Air is relatively new, at about 2-3 years old! All still work fine, although i do need to replace the iPad soon as some apps no longer work properly on it, due to the age, but thats to be expected from a device that old. 

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I've got a very old MacBook Pro and the Magsafe charger has finally bit the dust (frayed wire at the base).

80 bastard quid they want for a new one, for a charger! I'm still in disbelief. Haven't read a single decent thing about any 3rd party ones either, my attempted electrical tape fix was disastrous to say the least so might just have to bite the bullet.

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I'd always tread carefully when buying third party chargers.  £80 might be expensive but it's cheaper than your house burning down. 

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9 hours ago, penguin said:

I've got a very old MacBook Pro and the Magsafe charger has finally bit the dust (frayed wire at the base).

80 bastard quid they want for a new one, for a charger! I'm still in disbelief. Haven't read a single decent thing about any 3rd party ones either, my attempted electrical tape fix was disastrous to say the least so might just have to bite the bullet.

After some helpful advise from @blandy and @Xela I decided to jump to apple and yesterday ordered the iPhone 12. I didn't realise until watching a few reviews that it doesn't even come with a charging plug. My first apple product hasn't even arrived yet and I'm already discovering that things aren't cheap 🤣

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10 hours ago, penguin said:

I've got a very old MacBook Pro and the Magsafe charger has finally bit the dust (frayed wire at the base).

80 bastard quid they want for a new one, for a charger! I'm still in disbelief. Haven't read a single decent thing about any 3rd party ones either, my attempted electrical tape fix was disastrous to say the least so might just have to bite the bullet.

I’ve got 2 of those going spare. There might be a way out. They’re from 2009 and 2011 MacBook Pro models. You can have one if you want ( for free).

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4 hours ago, av1 said:

After some helpful advise from @blandy and @Xela I decided to jump to apple and yesterday ordered the iPhone 12. I didn't realise until watching a few reviews that it doesn't even come with a charging plug. My first apple product hasn't even arrived yet and I'm already discovering that things aren't cheap 🤣

They can be.  I bought the iPhone SE last summer which is the body of an iPhone 8 with the guts of an iPhone 11 (which was the newest model at the time) inside it and they start at £400.  I'll probably get at least three years use out of it. 

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6 hours ago, av1 said:

it doesn't even come with a charging plug

In general that's a good thing really (for all electrical kit).

Most people have loads of USB chargers knocking around in drawers that never get used. Obviously now stuff's moved from USB A to C it'll be maybe be an issue for some people (as the cable that comes with an iPhone is (I think, now) USB C at one end and lightning at the other). You either need a USB C charger, or a charging Matt thingummy or a USB A to lightning lead, or an A - C adaptor or to charge it off a laptop with USB C. You should be able to sort one of those options for a few pounds at most, if not nothing.

In a few years the idea of plugging something in to a charger or to sync it to a computer will be a thing of the past.

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11 hours ago, av1 said:

After some helpful advise from @blandy and @Xela I decided to jump to apple and yesterday ordered the iPhone 12. I didn't realise until watching a few reviews that it doesn't even come with a charging plug. My first apple product hasn't even arrived yet and I'm already discovering that things aren't cheap 🤣

I think thats a fairly new thing from Apple. They go on the basis that most iPhone 12 buyers will have probably had 5 or 6 previous iPhones and have a myriad of chargers. 

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7 hours ago, blandy said:

In general that's a good thing really (for all electrical kit).

Most people have loads of USB chargers knocking around in drawers that never get used. Obviously now stuff's moved from USB A to C it'll be maybe be an issue for some people (as the cable that comes with an iPhone is (I think, now) USB C at one end and lightning at the other). You either need a USB C charger, or a charging Matt thingummy or a USB A to lightning lead, or an A - C adaptor or to charge it off a laptop with USB C. You should be able to sort one of those options for a few pounds at most, if not nothing.

In a few years the idea of plugging something in to a charger or to sync it to a computer will be a thing of the past.

Thanks mate. As you say, the phone comes with USB c to apple connector, so I've just had to buy the brick. Think I paid £15 from Amazon. It's claims to be a genuine apple product. 

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3 minutes ago, av1 said:

Thanks mate. As you say, the phone comes with USB c to apple connector, so I've just had to buy the brick. Think I paid £15 from Amazon. It's claims to be a genuine apple product. 

And just as I pressed submit reply Mr Amazon has turned up. It seems like a genuine Apple product, so £15 isn't too bad. 

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