Stevo985 Posted April 18, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted April 18, 2018 On 16/04/2018 at 09:49, lexicon said: That's a redundant statement though, most wingers struggle when they're doubled up on. You said that he was useless without a RB overlapping. I disagree. You're right. He certainly isn't useless without Elmo. But he is noticeably better with Elmo playing behind him instead of Hutton. But as you say that's more credit to Elmo rather than a negative against Snodgrass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 12 hours ago, Czechlad said: So they want 12 million for him?! Are West Ham crazy? He is going to be 31 next season, has played in the championship the whole last season, and they bought Snodgrass last January for only 10 million when he was a premier league player. Snodgrass has been good for us, but there is no reason for his price tag to have gone up... You're right, there's no reason for his price to have gone up, and I would imagine that like most starting prices in a negotiation this one will be open to bargaining down, since he's useless to them as an asset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 This will be his last season here, he has been excellent, but that price is extremely poor value, especially given his age. For that fee I think we could get someone younger and just as effective at this level, if we do go up, then we should be looking at better players anyway. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted April 18, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted April 18, 2018 6 minutes ago, Dr_Pangloss said: This will be his last season here, he has been excellent, but that price is extremely poor value, especially given his age. For that fee I think we could get someone younger and just as effective at this level, if we do go up, then we should be looking at better players anyway. I understand your point however (should we go up) for the sake of hitting the ground running Id say it would be quite important keeping as much as our best team as possible. Early points will be vital and we will stand a far better chance with an attack that knows each other, especially with him being such a vital part of that unit. 12 million is cheap for the division, however its not down here. If we dont go up he wont be here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 (edited) 57 minutes ago, Nigel said: I'd say it would be quite important keeping as much as our best team as possible. That's the kind of thinking that gets you relegated IMO. If we go up we should be looking to improve our current "best" team as much as possible. We would need to upgrade 5 or 6 of that team at a minimum. If we could keep Snodgrass as a squad player relatively cheaply then that would be good but that's not realistic. Edited April 18, 2018 by villa89 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 34 minutes ago, villa89 said: That's the kind of thinking that gets you relegated IMO. If we go up we should be looking to improve our current "best" team as much as possible. We would need to upgrade 5 or 6 of that team at a minimum. If we could keep Snodgrass as a squad player relatively cheaply then that would be good but that's not realistic. Well, it's pretty much the exact approach the likes of Burnley, Bournemouth, Swansea, Southampton, Leicester etc have taken and it's worked out okay for those (Southampton are struggling this year obvs). They've largely kept the same group of players but have added pockets of quality here and there, which is exactly what we should be looking to do. Wholesale changes rarely work out well, as we know. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 (edited) 23 minutes ago, bannedfromHandV said: Wholesale changes rarely work out well, as we know. We're not good enough to stay up without wholesale changes IMO. Wolves are but not us. Edited April 18, 2018 by villa89 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 48 minutes ago, villa89 said: We're not good enough to stay up without wholesale changes IMO. Wolves are but not us. I'm pretty sure you would have looked at the Bournemouth, Leicester, Swansea, Burnley squads and said the same thing, at the time of their respective promotions. Having good players is 50% of the equation, team spirit and culture is the other 50%, Leicester proved that by winning the league, Burnley are proving it this season sitting in 7th place and 2 points off Arsenal. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted April 18, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted April 18, 2018 1 hour ago, villa89 said: That's the kind of thinking that gets you relegated IMO. If we go up we should be looking to improve our current "best" team as much as possible. We would need to upgrade 5 or 6 of that team at a minimum. If we could keep Snodgrass as a squad player relatively cheaply then that would be good but that's not realistic. No. You do have to upgrade, but by getting rid of your weaker players, not your best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 22 hours ago, Dr_Pangloss said: This will be his last season here, he has been excellent, but that price is extremely poor value, especially given his age. For that fee I think we could get someone younger and just as effective at this level, if we do go up, then we should be looking at better players anyway. Albrighton? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAuthority Posted April 24, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted April 24, 2018 Up for the MOTD magazine Championship player of the year award. Give him a vote!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted April 24, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted April 24, 2018 Done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 8 minutes ago, TheAuthority said: Up for the MOTD magazine Championship player of the year award. Give him a vote!! My "kid" has voted. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan-scott Posted April 24, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted April 24, 2018 4 hours ago, rodders0223 said: My "kid" has voted. And mine. He’s 2 and certainly knows his own mind. Doesn’t have a clue who Snodgrass is though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czechlad Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 Doesn't deserve it, but is currently in the lead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 It's probably possible that Moyes would want to take a look at him in pre season, strikes me as the sort who'd play Snodgrass a bit although not a great situation as the fans and owner hate him while he gets loads of love here. Excellent player at this level, hope we can get him here full time. No club will sign him for 12m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 8 hours ago, Czechlad said: Doesn't deserve it, but is currently in the lead. Yeah, I voted for him but feel a bit guilty about it. He arguably deserves it the least out of those five, and Neves should clearly win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave J Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 On 18/04/2018 at 11:59, villa89 said: We're not good enough to stay up without wholesale changes IMO. Wolves are but not us. Wolves are good enough with this current team - let alone the money that they can now spend - it's not exaggerating to say they can afford whoever they want - this makes me sad! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NASTY_LEE Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 He must be great at the training ground You Tube Vid 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted April 27, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted April 27, 2018 He and Hourihane are on “You Know the Drill” tomorrow on Soccer AM Soccer AM is shite but that but is actually usually decent, so should be good with Snodders starring. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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