DCJonah Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 42 minutes ago, bobzy said: I think he crippled our midfield, yet again, personally. He's decent enough defensively but doesn't enable us to get out at all, so Forest were able to just keep the ball and keep us under pressure. As soon as he went off, that was completely changed. Bjarnason hassled and pushed us up the pitch. Give me that over the occasional block any day of the week. Yep. Whelan was fine, he made a few tackles and passes. But he is so slow and limited that it has an effect on us. Nothing about being a scapegoat, he just doesn't have a positive effect on the team 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omariqy Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 I hate to be negative after a win but apart from his excellent block he was pretty much non existent. The difference between our midfield performance in the two halves when Thor was there showed you how poor Whelan can be at times. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted January 13, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted January 13, 2018 13 minutes ago, omariqy said: I hate to be negative after a win but apart from his excellent block he was pretty much non existent. The difference between our midfield performance in the two halves when Thor was there showed you how poor Whelan can be at times. It's not negative. I was going to say the same thing. It's a simple fact. Maybe or maybe not it was due to Whelan himself but we were substantially better after he went off. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 14 minutes ago, omariqy said: I hate to be negative after a win but apart from his excellent block he was pretty much non existent. The difference between our midfield performance in the two halves when Thor was there showed you how poor Whelan can be at times. 1 minute ago, sidcow said: It's not negative. I was going to say the same thing. It's a simple fact. Maybe or maybe not it was due to Whelan himself but we were substantially better after he went off. No I totally agree with you both and we looked much more promising with him in the role after Whelan went off. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 Horrible player, rarely brings anything to the team, nearly cost us a goal from his lazy foul. better without him, bring on Thor! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 I see Glenn is settling into the 2017-2018 Villa scapegoat of the season role with aplomb. He is a decent player at this level and I think he has added to the team. For a million quid its been a good buy. Would you rather have Whelan in the set up or Gary Gardner, currently on the bench at Barnsley? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdistheword Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 2 hours ago, The Fun Factory said: I see Glenn is settling into the 2017-2018 Villa scapegoat of the season role with aplomb. He is a decent player at this level and I think he has added to the team. For a million quid its been a good buy. Would you rather have Whelan in the set up or Gary Gardner, currently on the bench at Barnsley? He was man of the match against Wolves yesterday... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HongKongVillan Posted January 14, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted January 14, 2018 9 hours ago, The Fun Factory said: I see Glenn is settling into the 2017-2018 Villa scapegoat of the season role with aplomb. He is a decent player at this level and I think he has added to the team. For a million quid its been a good buy. Would you rather have Whelan in the set up or Gary Gardner, currently on the bench at Barnsley? Not sure if this is necessarily scapegoating a player. A simple question is, is how do you rate glen Whelan as a player? For me, he is a limited defo midfield who often makes mistakes. I know it was only 45mins of football vs a very poor forest team, but to me Bjarnason was so much better, and he made no mistake 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 Was he taken off due to fitness or shitness? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VILLAMARV Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 (edited) 53 minutes ago, Kingman said: Was he taken off due to fitness or shitness? Bruce post match: Quote “He hurt his knee in the challenge just before half-time, in the blocked challenge. For him to come off it must be sore." “I’ve got no problems with Glenn Whelan." “As I’ve said many times, you don’t play in the Premier League, averaging 30 games every season." “His experience and know how will be important." http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/aston-villa-steve-bruce-transcript-14152657 Edited January 14, 2018 by VILLAMARV 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
praisedmambo Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 He was really good first half. We all watch such different games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted January 14, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted January 14, 2018 8 minutes ago, praisedmambo said: He was really good first half. We all watch such different games. I don't think it's a question of how good he was but how much better we were without him. As others have said he did what he doesn't well enough but we just couldn't keep the ball and control the game that's well until he went off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junxs Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 14 hours ago, rodders0223 said: He was perfectly fine. Won tackles, won headers, we never looked in trouble, he did his job. The trouble is people see that and think thats fine. However thats what he's in the team to do, as his most basic job. To be a better team overall you need more from your DM. There were times yesterday when he would just head it aimlessly when theres no pressure on him and it went straight to the opposition. A better player would know hes got a bit of time, take the opportunity to chest it and lay it off to a team mate, I personally think he knows he is limited at this so the first thing in his mind is "just get rid, not my job to be passing it". The other week, Grealish tried to play a one two with him and his layoff was so poor it didnt go anywhere near Jack, but straight to the opposition - the ball was then launched up the pitch, Jedinak failed to control it and the opposition scored, but because of Jedinaks mistake people forgot about what happened just before. He's not terrible but I understand why some get frustrated with him while others dont, its up to each persons own ideas of what they expect from their DM. Either you see that position as just a blocker (an advanced centre back if you like) or you see him as a deep lying dual purpose player who can get involved with breaking up play and setting up attacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAL Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 I thought bruce taking Glenn off was for tactical reasons which lead to us playing far better. Guess I gave him to much credit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 I think it was tactical, its just Bruce don't do half time substitutions, so Bruce must have told him to fake an injury, not to lose face Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 I thought he was ok yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 2 hours ago, kwoktolai said: Not sure if this is necessarily scapegoating a player. A simple question is, is how do you rate glen Whelan as a player? For me, he is a limited defo midfield who often makes mistakes. I know it was only 45mins of football vs a very poor forest team, but to me Bjarnason was so much better, and he made no mistake I rate him as a decent midfielder with nearly a decade of top flight football and with over 80 international caps to his belt. At 1 million he has and will be a good attention to our team. A couple of weeks ago everyone was slating Bjanarason- I read in a different thread that he was the worst player someone had ever seen in a villa shirt (?!). I bet in a couple more weeks everyone will be slating Jedinak and praising Whelan- that has it goes on this site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightoffyour Posted February 11, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted February 11, 2018 Ooooooh what a feeling, When we’re subbing on Glenn Whelan. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 Top notch cameo that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat Kendrick's Dentist Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 Can't see Bruce dropping him after scoring, despite an appalling overall performance..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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