Grasshopper Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 3 hours ago, dn1982 said: GK is Sam Johnstone. unfortunately, you are right - not convinced about SJ at all. 3 hours ago, dn1982 said: CB after Elphick and Richards go could be Samba Elphick at a push Richards as a training cone (maybe) Samba got turned and ripped by a part timer - not convinced 3 hours ago, dn1982 said: The DM if he stays could be Veretout or even Lyden. Can live with that 3 hours ago, dn1982 said: As for the wingers we've Adomah Green and Grealish and Birkir able to play wide too even if we get rid of Bacuna. Grealish & Thor are not pacey enough Bacuna simply has to go 3 hours ago, dn1982 said: We've also a healthy bunch of kids underneath this lot. agree, I'd like to see them blooded from the bench for 30mins once we're 4-0 up 3 hours ago, dn1982 said: The sqaud is virtually in place. we'll soon see 3 hours ago, dn1982 said: Unless SB wants to just keep adding players. a la Sunderland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 2 hours ago, KSV said: seriously? Any team with him not starting is wrong. He will be our best player this year barring injury. Don't know if you are being serious or not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 22 hours ago, mjmooney said: So, that's... no goalie, Hogan and Kodjia as fullbacks, McCormack as the holding midfielder, Hourihane, Veretout and Lansbury across the middle, Bree and Taylor on the wings, and Chester and Terry playing behind Johnstone as a lone striker? Reminds me of how MON's teams used to look after some of his second-half substitutions! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimcohen Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 ----------------------Kodjia-------Hogan------------------------ Bjarnason--------Jedinak-------Lansbury--------AdomahTaylor--------------Terry-------Chester-----------------Bree--------------------------Johnstone------------------------------ Not my preferred, more my prediction. I see us going for more of a solid 4-4-2. I think it suits our squad more and feel that Bruce favors it. We are one of the favorites and should play 2 up. We are not great in possession so maybe 3 in the middle helps, but that leaves the front man isolated. Back 4 picks itself, just Hutton or Bree for RB slot with RDL being eased in as the variable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 I think with some of our players we're going to have to change formations and systems whenever we rotate or suffer with injuries and I'm not sure that's a positive. I'd like to have a preferred way of playing and a squad of players who can easily fit in it when needed. For example, if we want to play 4-3-3 then we can only really do that when Kodjia is fit. No other striker can really play as a lone forward, and we're limited with wide players who could fit that. If Adomah or Kodjia can't play we need to change formations and fit players in. That's got to effect consistency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dn1982 Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 8 hours ago, Grasshopper said: unfortunately, you are right - not convinced about SJ at all. Elphick at a push Richards as a training cone (maybe) Samba got turned and ripped by a part timer - not convinced Can live with that Grealish & Thor are not pacey enough Bacuna simply has to go agree, I'd like to see them blooded from the bench for 30mins once we're 4-0 up we'll soon see a la Sunderland Samba looked fit and dominant in midweek. I know it was Telford but it's a start and he can be any worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alreadyexists Posted July 15, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted July 15, 2017 A defence of; Johnstone Bree Chester Terry Taylor vs last years season opener: Gollini Hutton Elphick Baker Cissokho is undoubtedly much better. and a midfield where we can play: Hourihane Lansbury Green (for example) vs last seasons opener: Bacuna Westwood Gardener ... what a midfield that was, ha ha! We're in a much better position. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREAT_BEARD_OF_ZEUS Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 (edited) Right now i think the starting XI should probably be the one on the left of these three - especially as Hull will undoubtedly be without both starting fullbacks from last season, therefore will have newbies starting on both sides. Should really aim to go at them on either flank and take advantage of any early unfamiliarity in their side. What is for certain is that Bruce certainly isn't short of options, we effectively have 3 teams of (pretty much all) senior players at the moment!! Edit: Obviously Kodjia isn't going to be ready so it won't be him up top. Edited July 15, 2017 by GREAT_BEARD_OF_ZEUS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 (edited) 3 hours ago, GREAT_BEARD_OF_ZEUS said: Right now i think the starting XI should probably be the one on the left of these three - especially as Hull will undoubtedly be without both starting fullbacks from last season, therefore will have newbies starting on both sides. Should really aim to go at them on either flank and take advantage of any early unfamiliarity in their side. What is for certain is that Bruce certainly isn't short of options, we effectively have 3 teams of (pretty much all) senior players at the moment!! Edit: Obviously Kodjia isn't going to be ready so it won't be him up top. Interesting stuff - I've been hoping someone would do a map of the squad like this to help assess our strength in depth. I think the team on the right would be fighting relegation after about 5 matches. Think also there is no way Bruce won't start with Terry, so you need to do a bit of a merger of the left & centre charts. Edit. Isn't Cissokho staying with Olympiacos? Hope so. Edited July 15, 2017 by briny_ear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 Johnstone Bree Chester Terry Taylor Hourihane Veretout Lansbury Adomah Hogan Green Pending injuries and all that. Far from perfect I know. The back 4 seem rather obvious. Don't want Jedi in the team as I think he does more harm than good. Hopefully those 3 can form a good trio. I haven't seen anything from Hogan yet, but as Kodija is injured I rather have him than McCormack or Gabby. Greeen and Adomah are the wingers we have and both did well at least from time to time last season. I really don't want us to play 4-4-2, but 3-5-2 with the right set up might work with the squad we have and with Green or Grealish playing behind the strikers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSV Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 Having jedinak frees up Veretout and Hourihane from staying too deep. He must play and theres a reason why we won most our games when he played. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 where does Lansbury play then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farlz Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 Johnstone Bree - Chester - Terry - Taylor Veretout - Lansbury - Hourihane Adomah - Hogan - Green If Kodjia is ready then obviously he starts instead of Hogan. I don't want Hutton anywhere near the starting 11 of our side. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted July 16, 2017 Share Posted July 16, 2017 This is tough. From our available players there never seems to be any recognisable shape to pick for. Based on players still at the club not injured. Johnstone Bree Chester Terry Amavi Lansbury Veretout Hourihane Green Hogan Grealish Not ideal but best chance of creating and scoring some goals, for me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSV Posted July 16, 2017 Share Posted July 16, 2017 12 hours ago, Zatman said: where does Lansbury play then? he doesnt. He is too similar to Hourihane. One or the other. At this stage i would start Conor due to his set pieces alone. We need a more creative player alongside Jedinak and one of Hourihane and Lansbury in a midfield 3. Id even play Grealish in an advanced forward role but preferably someone who will work hard off the ball too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted July 16, 2017 Share Posted July 16, 2017 11 hours ago, a m ole said: This is tough. From our available players there never seems to be any recognisable shape to pick for. Based on players still at the club not injured. Johnstone Bree Chester Terry Amavi Lansbury Veretout Hourihane Green Hogan Grealish Not ideal but best chance of creating and scoring some goals, for me. I like it because it addresses the issue of footballers - you have - in theory - almost a whole team who can play reasonable football, and some who could, if used right, score goals. Some of the other variations leave us too light IMO in footballers as opposed to grafters and too few who might score goals. Having said that its a conundrum because - as TRO keeps saying - sadly none of the midfielders look very well equipped to actually win the ball, with Lansbury maybe being best bet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted July 16, 2017 Share Posted July 16, 2017 I would like to see 343 if Samba has still got it Chester Terry Samba/Bree A lot of players would miss out possibly Hutton Jedinak Taylor/Bjarnason Gabby McCormack which IMO would be a good thing but obviously won't happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grasshopper Posted July 16, 2017 Share Posted July 16, 2017 (edited) If we go with a back 3 it can only be Chester Terry Baker for balance If it's a 4 in MF Adomah Lansbury Hourihane & Green so we can go with a nr 10 + 2 strikers (McC - Hogan & Kodjia/Gaby or Davis till Kodjia fit) or 2nr 10's (McC & Grealish) and Kodjia If its a 3-5-2 we dont need Jedi Bree Lansbury McC Hourihane Green Hogan Kodjia (Gaby/Davis) A back 4 should only mean 4-3-3 Bree/RDL Chester Terry/Baker/Jedi Taylor Lansbury Jedi Hourihane then either Adomah Kodjia (Hogan) Green or McC Grealish Kodjia (Hogan or Gaby till fit) or McC Hogan Kodjia (or Gaby till fit Any of those as a 1st 11 in 80% of the games should walk this league on the bench would be a selection (depending on formation and who is then not on the pitch) from RB Bree RDL CB Terry Baker Jedi Elphick (?) LB Taylor Amavi CM Jedi Veretout Lyden AM McC Grealish RW Adomah LW Green Amavi CF Hogan Gaby RHM Davis That is using 20 outfield players not using Hutton Richards Samba (?) Gardner Bacuna Thor Over to you Bruce & Calderwood No excuses Campeòn Edited July 16, 2017 by Grasshopper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grasshopper Posted July 16, 2017 Share Posted July 16, 2017 (edited) P.S. We can have SJ Bunn or anyone in Goal as they shouldnt have much to do On a more humourous note How about Baker as GK? on crosses and corners he'd take everybody out including the ref and at least one linesman!!!! Edited July 16, 2017 by Grasshopper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackbauer24 Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 I'd put a new midfielder as top priority. We need someone who can dictate the game, tidy up, make the smart pass. Let the forwards do their job, let the defence do theirsand be the link we've been missing. Doesn't need pace, doesn't even need skill as such - just composure and a footballing brain. Someone of Barry ilk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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