LakotaDakota Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 13 minutes ago, Zatman said: Cant see Chelsea appointing an unproven manager or even an Englishman Lampard is the easy & cheap option. Abramovich still has visa issues so isn't as involved as he was. Lampard would jump at the chance to manage Chelsea (even on an initial 18 month contract so they could bin him cheaply if it goes wrong) and they only have to look what Solskjaer has done at United to instantly transform a completely toxic club around. What Chelsea fan wouldn't have far more patience when things go wrong if Lampard & Terry were there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, LakotaDakota said: Lampard is the easy & cheap option. Abramovich still has visa issues so isn't as involved as he was. Lampard would jump at the chance to manage Chelsea (even on an initial 18 month contract so they could bin him cheaply if it goes wrong) and they only have to look what Solskjaer has done at United to instantly transform a completely toxic club around. What Chelsea fan wouldn't have far more patience when things go wrong if Lampard & Terry were there. Well Lampard is on a 3 year contract now and imagine Derby paying him decent wages so probably not that cheap. Lampard also played with a number of these players so did Terry so be a lot riskier especially as probably friends with many of them Also Solskjaer has worked temporarily but many others failed going back like Hoddle at Spurs or Shearer and Keegan part 2 at Newcastle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted February 19, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted February 19, 2019 I love JT the player, but since he is the defense expert in the team, he has to bear some of the blame at least. I don't know how much, but some of it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LakotaDakota Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Zatman said: Well Lampard is on a 3 year contract now and imagine Derby paying him decent wages so probably not that cheap. Lampard also played with a number of these players so did Terry so be a lot riskier especially as probably friends with many of them Also Solskjaer has worked temporarily but many others failed going back like Hoddle at Spurs or Shearer and Keegan part 2 at Newcastle Chelsea don't care about 2/5 years down the road. Temporarily is fine. They still have a decent shot at top 4 & the Europa League this season. Chelsea/United are far, far better than 14 of the teams in the premier league. They don't need a 200 page tactical analysis on how to beat Burnley, They just need someone to tell them to go and beat them and have a bit of fun while doing it. 8 times out of 10 they will beat them simply by being far better players. Edited February 19, 2019 by LakotaDakota 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 He’s been at a Chelsea game tonight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 After reading @LakotaDakota & @Zatman's comments regarding Lampard & Terry. I do think there is legs in this that would see Lampard potentially return to Chelsea as manager with JT as his assistant, especially if he gets Derby far in the play offs or even promoted? Be under no illusion the relationship between Lampard, Terry & Abramovich. Both players where there almost as long as he was and would have a better relationship. I agree Sarri's days look numbered and will be gone come May. So there is potential for these two to replace Sarri come June. As for the size of the job/club and how they would both cope if they did become Chelsea's next 1 & 2 is a different matter but I think they would do okay myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 5 minutes ago, AvfcRigo82 said: After reading @LakotaDakota & @Zatman's comments regarding Lampard & Terry. I do think there is legs in this that would see Lampard potentially return to Chelsea as manager with JT as his assistant, especially if he gets Derby far in the play offs or even promoted? Be under no illusion the relationship between Lampard, Terry & Abramovich. Both players where there almost as long as he was and would have a better relationship. I agree Sarri's days look numbered and will be gone come May. So there is potential for these two to replace Sarri come June. As for the size of the job/club and how they would both cope if they did become Chelsea's next 1 & 2 is a different matter but I think they would do okay myself. I’m not convinced he’d want to work under Lampard. Yes they are good mates and have had a good playing career together. But he has ambitions to be head coach himself, why would he go back to chelsea to be under Lampard? If things went Pete tong he wouldn’t get his dream job as head coach there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 15 minutes ago, mikeyp102 said: I’m not convinced he’d want to work under Lampard. Yes they are good mates and have had a good playing career together. But he has ambitions to be head coach himself, why would he go back to chelsea to be under Lampard? If things went Pete tong he wouldn’t get his dream job as head coach there. I think he would. He would take over as manager if Lampard left or got sacked imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 Lampard hasnt pulled up many trees in Championship yet and Terry has even less experience. It would be madness decision Solskjaer and Zidane surrounded themselves with experience 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LakotaDakota Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 13 minutes ago, Zatman said: Lampard hasnt pulled up many trees in Championship yet and Terry has even less experience. It would be madness decision Solskjaer and Zidane surrounded themselves with experience There are people seriously suggesting Emma Hayes, Think that would be madder... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 Meanwhile, John Terry has been delivering leadership speeches to the England Rugby team! Whilst doing this and lording around down with Chelsea, surely he should be focusing more doing the things at the club he is employed by? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didiersix Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 6 hours ago, AvfcRigo82 said: Meanwhile, John Terry has been delivering leadership speeches to the England Rugby team! Whilst doing this and lording around down with Chelsea, surely he should be focusing more doing the things at the club he is employed by? I thought the same. It was a bad look for him - and the fact he was watching some Chelsea youth (?) game last night (having watched them in the FA Cup on Monday). My perception is that we do not seem to be his first priority. Certainly wouldn't surprise me if something was afoot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 36 minutes ago, Didiersix said: I thought the same. It was a bad look for him - and the fact he was watching some Chelsea youth (?) game last night (having watched them in the FA Cup on Monday). My perception is that we do not seem to be his first priority. Certainly wouldn't surprise me if something was afoot. Exactly. Nothing like having another bit on the side eh JT? The club are probably better off without him. He can leave the club as far as I'm corncerned as by the sounds of things he offers sod all here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 Yeah I think I'm over Terry. We need the Villa loving version of him to come in. Laursen or Mellberg wouldn't leave being managers to come here just as coaches would they? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 While it's nice Villa are allowing him to learn a new trade here I'm not sure keeping him for another season is in the best interest of the club. Must be better more experienced coaches and assistants we could bring in. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 45 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Yeah I think I'm over Terry. We need the Villa loving version of him to come in. Laursen or Mellberg wouldn't leave being managers to come here just as coaches would they? Good shout JV. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 Too much speculation flying around....that adds up to nothing. unless we know something for sure....it doesn't help. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LakotaDakota Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, AvfcRigo82 said: Exactly. Nothing like having another bit on the side eh JT? The club are probably better off without him. He can leave the club as far as I'm corncerned as by the sounds of things he offers sod all here. How do you know any of this is his choice? For all we know he may want to move into BMH and be here 24/7 doing everything but has been told just to turn up for training & matchdays by the ginger/grey one Edited February 20, 2019 by LakotaDakota Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 4 hours ago, sne said: While it's nice Villa are allowing him to learn a new trade here I'm not sure keeping him for another season is in the best interest of the club. Must be better more experienced coaches and assistants we could bring in. Apperently JT and Susso get along really well . So it wouldnt surprise me if JT was offered a promotion of some sort....not neccesrily de throning smith. ...but maybe coaching the u23's. maybe his relationship with Susso is why he has been distanced from 1st team coaching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 9 minutes ago, hippo said: Apperently JT and Susso get along really well . So it wouldnt surprise me if JT was offered a promotion of some sort....not neccesrily de throning smith. ...but maybe coaching the u23's. maybe his relationship with Susso is why he has been distanced from 1st team coaching. Without actually knowing what Terry is like as a coach I think that might be a role he's more suited to. But Delaney is it? Is doing a good job isn't he? Making Terry head coach for the senior team would be a terrible idea IMO. Not what we need now or in the summer or whenever. Way too soon for him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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